seems like an odd question, doesn't it? i'm sure growing up many m.d.'s may have at one time worked at a mcdonald's or some other fast food establishment in order to earn money to pay for school or to just have extra spending money, but i doubt you'll find very many m.d.'s who profess to currently being employees of mcdonald's just because they used to work there. which brings me to my question. i was watching some show on tv where kirk cameron and this other dude were trying to get people to admit that they were liars, thieves, and adulterers because some of those people may have done those things in the past. admittedly, i have lied in the past. i don't do it anymore. does that mean i'm still a liar? am i forever marked as a liar because i used to lie? seems pretty stupid if you ask me. what do you think?
2007-12-11 07:07:23 · 17 answers · asked by just curious (A.A.A.A.) 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
furthermore, if i'm forever marked by what i used to be, couldn't i also claim that i'm sinless as well? i used to be without sin? why am i not anymore?
2007-12-11 07:09:55 · update #1
rev, aside from your response what was so asinine about the question?
2007-12-11 07:16:13 · update #2
Great question. Having a forgiving God you would think people would have forgiving hearts in any matters that come. But the truth of the matter is that we damn people to hell and condemn them for all of their sins, we never let go or forget of any past doings. Then we honestly and truly believe that the sins of others are greater than our own sins...
Oh yeah and if anything thing that you say on here is based on your "lying" past tell them to GET A LIFE!! This is a on-line community only a fool would give 100% of who they truly are - - I mean you can always find some truth in a statement but who are they to decide on what YOUR truth really is...
- What's up with the McDonald's question though you got me totally lost...
2007-12-11 07:23:42 · answer #1 · answered by mentalchallenge 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Sounds like a "Jerry Springer" show. But, no, if a person no longer lies, that person is no longer a liar. (Or theif or adulterer. I believe that smokers, drinkers, and druggies are different, because that is a chemical (and hence a physical) dependency).
I agree with you; that sounds "pretty stupid". Even I worked for McDonald's once; since such a large percentage of people got their first job at McDonald's, there is a SLIGHT chance that some doctor got his first job there. After all, doctors do NOT come from poor or working class people.
2007-12-11 15:24:22 · answer #2 · answered by Nothingusefullearnedinschool 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think (despite opposing sentiments) this is a good question. How can you both be a liar for what you've done in the past and also NOT be sinless after having been "sinless" (by whatever definition) in the past?
I think if "sin" religions were to be honest, then they would have to judge the person by how they are RIGHT NOW.
However, either way, punishment/reward theism is primitive and most good people would agree that it's time to move past it.
2007-12-11 15:16:50 · answer #3 · answered by Gap™ ( uses the WikiBible™ ) 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It's just a way to get people to think in tunnel vision, and ignore everything else.
My old church did this to me.
If you would ask something like "If Noah had all the animals on the ark, how did he find the polar bears?" (Simple enough childish question)
The pastor would say something like "Don't you remember the story of Doubting Thomas? Do you want to be like him?"
The conversation then turns to the story of Doubting Thomas, and you feel guilty for ever questioning anything. And your thoughts drift away from the obvious... back into the tunnel that is Christianity.
2007-12-11 15:11:43 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
You see, the ploy they were using is called the guilt card. If you tell a person they are doing something wrong, they want to correct it, and if you are the first one to tell them how, they'll most likely listen to you. Pills that supposedly get rid of body fat use the same technique in their commercials.
Mike: non-believers watch Way of the Master because it provides some very good laughs. Their arguments are always the worst.
2007-12-11 15:11:12 · answer #5 · answered by 雅威的烤面包机 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I hate that damn Kirk Cameron show..him and that other dude with the accent. They're the most critical, judgemental ,aggravating ppl ever. So to answer your question, no I do not agree with that. I wish they'd take that show off the air..I don't know why I've ever sat and watched that crap..I just find it fascinating how much they beat ppl over the head with that crap.
2007-12-11 15:14:45 · answer #6 · answered by Somebody's Afta Me 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I would think the idea was to have people confess to past sins & ask for forgiveness.
But no, I don't think that if you comitted a sin in the past and have stopped, that you are still guilty of that sin.
That wouldn't make sense.
2007-12-11 15:11:40 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Your current actions define who you are, simple. Your past is what you used to be, unless you're still doing it. Like right now, I'm a procrastinator for being on Yahoo Answers and not studying for my accounting final.
2007-12-11 15:12:40 · answer #8 · answered by The Assassin with a Resume 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Of course you're right.
That seems to be a favorite fundamentalist ploy: try to knock down self-esteem and self-worth, then offer to build it back up in line with their opinions about God and spirituality.
2007-12-11 15:10:21 · answer #9 · answered by Acorn 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
why do you care what kirk cameron thinks? he's an actor...do you know why he is on the bible channels? He is an actor... Do you think people have to go on Jerry Springer to admit they are adulterers? TV is TV, entertainment....actors.... I need to confess my life to Kirk just as much as I need to confess it to Jerry.
2007-12-11 15:15:05 · answer #10 · answered by You got FAAAAT!!! 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋