why do people deny catholics are christian?

Question

And from what I have heard the catholic church was founded First then came all the other denominations that pulled away from the church..Correct me If I am wrong I know very little Of this subject

My question is why do some people (NOT all) deny that catholics arent christian??

I accept that many catholics have indeed killed alot of pagans and other non believers but I dont hold that against them!

Answer 1

Most Catholics are more loyal to the Pope who claims "Christhood", than the actual Christ Himself.

The catholic church has done as much to hurt the faith as they have done to spread it, and in spite of all the pagan rituals they added, all the scripture they go against, and all the innocent blood they have shed...

They still think they are the one true church of Jesus.

Answer 2

Peace.....Catholics are Christians and the word Catholic means universal. So, yes many people do misunderstand the terminology. The Orthodox when saying the Nicene Creed use the word Catholic because as I said, it means universal. I personally believe that there was a lot going on in Christianity before Rome came on the scene and perhaps we need to look at that more closely.....blessings, "orthros"

Answer 3

This is probably more complicated than an answer on here can cope with, but basically some Christians, called Protestants (because they "protested" against the Roman Catholic Church's policies and teachings; see Martin Luther, John Calvin, Reformation) believe that the Roman Catholic beliefs are opposed to what these Protestants believe the Bible is saying.

Protestants generally believe that salvation is granted through faith alone. They believe that humans are sinful, and cannot possibly do enough good works to earn their way into heaven. It is only through God's intervention (grace) that humans can make it to heaven. They believe that good works follow after salvation, and are our way of saying "Thanks" to God.

Catholics (and, again, this is very general) believe that one must perform good works in order to achieve salvation. They believe that faith is just one of many good works that humans must perform.

The vast majority of Christians believe that both Protestants (Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, on and on) and Catholics are Christians. Even most Protestants would agree that Roman Catholics (and by the way, we're kind of ignoring the Orthodox Catholics) do have faith, and that it doesn't matter which came first, faith or works; as long as faith is there, salvation follows.

Some people just enjoy arguing, and enjoy having someone to pick on. It's all very human.


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Answer 4

I've encountered this idea in protestant circles but I think it comes from not understanding Catholicism. In most protestant churches the focus is on salvation by grace through faith, not a result of works. Many protestants misunderstand the role of the sacraments in the Catholic belief system. People who hold this view think of the sacraments as a way to achieve salvation through works which is heresy.

Clearly if the thief on the cross was saved without any works then the sacraments should be viewed, as Martha Stewart would put it, as "a good thing." It is a way that its followers are instructed to follow Christ, not actually producing salvation from itself. The salvation comes through Christ.

Another idea that plays into this is that many protestants feel that many casual Catholics don't have a good understanding of grace vs works and that as a result some Catholics may not be saved. I would say though that many people who call themselves protestants are also not living a life submitted to Christ and that only God can judge the heart.

That's my understanding, although I'm not a Catholic and I respect Catholics who devote their lives to living for God just as much as anyone else who does.

Answer 5

I don't deny that Catholics are Christian - but I can see the difference between Catholicism and other Christian religions.

I don't think Christianity would have survived as long as it has had it not been for the Catholic Church (and the Roman Empire) shoving it down everyones throats at the point of a sword.

The Catholic Church 'reformed' - but it is still a massively powerful establishment, with the agenda of propagating itself and it's superstitious nonsense.

The same as other Christian churches - but on a much larger scale.

Answer 6

Actually the Catholic church killed alot of christians and Jews not pagans although some probabaly fell into the mix when they were killing christians etc...... but as a whole the Cartholic church does not preach the true gospel as written in the Old and New Testament. That is why we christians don't believe the doctine of the catholic church is truly christian. We believe it is a false gospel. The Catholic church did not come first. What came first was the gospel of Moses and of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. Also as far back as Noah and Adam and Eve. Jesus was from the line of all of these people and He himself followed and taught the same gospel, of course eventually eliminating the pristhood altogether, and sacrifices. Jesus celebrated the Jewish feasts, the Holy Days and the true Sabbath days that God commanded that we observe. The catholic church has eliminated all of the true feasts and holy days and creatd their own false ones. One is only a christian if they are born again in the spirit, through their faith in Jesus. Not in religion.

Answer 7

First of all, the main reason is the catholics revernce of Mary and not centering on Jesus.

Second, they pray to statues and dead people. Both of which are forbidden in the BIBLE.

Third, they use the LIE that Peter was the first pope. Peter died before the end of the first century, and never went to Italy. That was Paul. Paul was the apostle to the gentiles. Peter was apostle to the jews. The catholic church was founded after the turn of the third century by emperor constantine. Who by the way was a sun worshipper and only brought christian themes into his pagan worship to try to make his religion more palatible to christianity.

Fourth, catholics always preach being poor, but look at how the pope dresses. They perform ACTS that they bellieve produce salvation. The Bible says that salvation is a gift from GOD not man lest any should boast.

And to end here, although not nearly complete in comparison, we see that catholics claim that when they perform the Lord's supper that they actually change the bread and wine into Christ's actual body and blood making them canibals.

I hope this helps to elviate some of your questions. If you have any more feel free to ask on the website below.

PS I always think it is very funny when self professed athiests try to answer questions such as this one. They always stick their opions in when they have no clue what they are saying.

By the way, I was catholic for 24 years until I actually read the Bible for the first time. I suggest if you want to comment on it, read it first.

Answer 8

It's amazing how Xians "know" so much about other religions and atheism without really knowing any of the facts at all. Catholics are just as much Xian as Protestants, and it would be hard to find a believer that did not believe a mixture or the two branches' dogma.

Answer 9

Well, as I've noticed around here (a very catholic country and myself being a pagan) Catholicism isn't that much different from paganism. In fact, history proves that most - if not all - of the important holidays were derived from pagan holidays, and that the traditions catholicism uses are largely derived from the local pagan traditions. (That's talking about Northern + Western European catholicism)

So technically, catholicism is paganism. And pagans aren't christian. Other christians see it, I see it, only catholics don't see it.

But its not catholicism itself that is paganistic. Before they forced it upon those northern and western european pagans, catholicism was actually a pure form of christianity, it's those pagans who refused to step away from their own religion that changed it so much into the form that it now is.

The fact that catholicism is hardly christian is probably the only reason why I still like them! ^_^

(And because I have to like them; after all, you don't go aggrevating a lion when you're in the lion's den, do you?)

Answer 10

Because the Protestant denominations are still protesting the faith.

But the biggest anti-Catholics tend to be fundamentalist. They are a cultish group that believes their personal interpretations of scripture are infallible and applicable to the world at large. They believe they have x-ray vision and can see into the hearts of others and determine who the worship and if they are going to hell. It's really a bizarre phenomenon. Unfortunately, the ones who seem to get caught in the fundamentalist web, are usually arrogant and prideful. All the better to judge others, I guess.

Answer 11

Because they are just ignorant and hatefilled people.
Following the missteachings of a runaway monk called Luther.Who did neither speak Latin nor German properly and therefore made a lot of mistakes translating the holy book into German which nowadays is the basis of all protestant churches.