How does a theist accept that their god has always existed.... just is.... always was, always will be…. but can't accept that the universe could have started with something like the big bang. The big bang actually has some logical ideas behind it. There is evidence that science is on the right track. God has always been has nothing but the notion that ‘I have faith’ behind it.
Isn't that like saying I don't care what evidence is in front of me, I'm going to believe what I want anyway?
2007-12-11 05:31:38 · 24 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
It is always the same everywhere:
For those who believe, no proof is necessary.
For those who do not believe, no proof is enough. :)
2007-12-11 05:39:58 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
But you can look at it the other way around. Why can't you accept that God was always here as opposed to the universe was always here? Something was just here. I believe that God created the universe via the big bang and humans and life through evolution. What is wrong with that? He must have had some means to create everything. Yes there is evidence to prove these things, but how did the elements of the big bang come into existence? That goes against the laws of nature. God is outside of those laws. Thus, we cannot view Him from a nature point of view. Scientific empirical evidence does not apply to God.
2007-12-11 05:45:24 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
if the universe started with something like the big bang, then the big bang had to also have a starting point, the theist notion of God is that it is THE starting point. There is no objectifiable evidence to point to this except the logical consideration that there must be a true beginning. So basically the theory goes, God created himself out of himself. However, God is purely speculative and can not rest on scientific and rational principles of thought. The soul, or mind, however, can, as the ontological subject of thought (you).
2007-12-11 05:39:13 · answer #3 · answered by Julian 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
They don't accept things like the Big Bang and Evolution because those ideas don't make them feel good about themselves, don't make them feel special, and don't tell them what they want to hear.
A human's need to feel that they are somehow important can go a long way towards helping them ignore all evidence that indicates that they are not important.
2007-12-11 05:59:03 · answer #4 · answered by Azure Z 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Laws of thermodynamics are clear. You can't make something from nothing. If you go back and find a time when there was nothing, nothing could come from it. Therefore, there must have always been something.
You want to discuss the big bang? Fine. Where or what did it come from?
You don't need religion to reach those conclusions, just logic.
2007-12-11 05:39:44 · answer #5 · answered by oklatom 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Where did the necessary ingredients come from to start the big bang? If you believe in the big bang theory are you not exercising faith without evidence? Faith that one day science will be able to answer the question.
2007-12-11 05:38:42 · answer #6 · answered by monte54que 7 · 5⤊ 2⤋
You're assuming that all Theists don't believe in the Big Bang Theory. Well, I'm Theist and I believe in the Big Bang Theory. I believe in God but I'm not afraid of science, either.
2007-12-11 05:37:14 · answer #7 · answered by jill45690 4 · 3⤊ 2⤋
your user name sort of leads to a lack of credibility don't you think
having a bit of science in my background, like lots and lots of it, i find big bang to violate understanding of physics
let me post something at this point. and hear loud and clear.
physics in this universe are the same everywhere. the big bang violates some laws of physics and I can accept that we have more to learn about the physics in such things as stars, black holes and even our own earth.
but for argument, lets say God spoke everything into existance by use of big bang. that would mean the universe is about 10,000 years old.
how do you explain the problems with a 10,000 year old universe that appears to be 11 billion years old and a 4.6 billion year old earth.
understand, i can rumble with the big kids or I can talk to children. i have a background in science probably equal to or surpassing yours. I can talk cosmology, astronomy, geology, history and so forth.
but if you do not explain what you are talking about, and make your presentation where people here can read and understand what you are saying, what value are you to anyone reading?
i believe strongly in science and that is why I see the hand of God in all of it.
study a one cell life form and tell me how one cell does everything you do, breath, eat, excrete and so forth....pretty complex. look at the dna. Do you know more than dr. crick? or how about dr. watson ?
did not think so
2007-12-11 05:52:48 · answer #8 · answered by magnetic_azimuth 6 · 2⤊ 2⤋
The 'Big Bang' theory makes an assumption that is based on faith, that it is meaningless to ask what came before the 'bang'. It is actually easier for me to believe in God, that He created the "heavens and the earth" Genesis 1:1
2007-12-11 05:41:21 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
There is only theory about a big bang.
Theory is not fact.
We have the Holy Scriptures. They are either the truth or have nothing at all to do with the truth.
The Holy Scriptures are the truth, the living Word of God in writing, the 1611 King James bible.
The bible doesn't say that God may have done this or that.
The bible says that God created the world.
2007-12-11 05:38:49 · answer #10 · answered by hisgloryisgreat 6 · 1⤊ 4⤋
It is impossible to explain faith to someone who has none. No matter what explanation we give you, it won't matter. I am respectful of everyone's opinions. You said the notion of God has nothing but " faith" behind it. Faith is everything to us. It is more than something we know, it's what we feel.
See, I know you're still shaking your head. Told you.
2007-12-11 05:42:12 · answer #11 · answered by Kricket T 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋