Atheists, so you want logic?

Question

The Qur'an was revealed 14 centuries ago. The Qur'an instructs Muslims to "contemplate the wonders of creation" (Qur'an 3:191).
It is filled with scientific facts and imagery that are supported by modern findings. Now, i give you one of the thousands examples:

"And Allah has created every animal from water. Of them there are some that creep on their bellies, some that walk on two legs, and some that walk on four..." (24:45)

This clearly, very clearly explains the evolution of animals (not men) , which they all started from sea creatures. This was first argued by Charles Robert Darwin, born in 1809, about 200 years ago.

Now, atheists, what else do you want? or you are just enjoying an argument?

If you still disagree, i do not see why you would, please, please have a read at Quran and decide yourself, since we all know human (me and you) could be wrong about what we think.

http://islam.about.com/library/weekly/aa092300a.htm

Answer 1

The Bible is full of scientific facts proclaimed long before modern science. Much of modern science comes from the ancient Middle East (home for some of the earliest civilizations). Abu ʿAlī al-Ḥasan ibn al-Ḥasan ibn al-Haytham introduced the scientific method that is used today.

Atheists are by no means the originators of scientific discovery. Claiming that they are epitome of scientific thought is a bold faced and ignorant lie.

Simple explanations don't work with these ones. They have to fully understand why the stove is hot before they can understand that they shouldn't put their hands on the racks - even after they've already been burned. Nothing can conciliate some people.

Explaining the concept of faith to some is like describing the joy of eating to someone without a sense of taste and smell.

'God Does Not Play Dice with the Universe' - Albert Einstein (Jewish)

Answer 2

First, that is not a clear explanation of evolution by any standards. Nor does it imply evolution especially when taken with the part about creating man separately and from mud.

Second, we can go to many writing both prior to the Qur'an and after and find observations that man has made about nature and how it works.

Third, modern humans have been around for over 200,000 years, why would any one trust a god that waited nearly that long to reveal his truth?

Fourth, archeology does not support Mecca being any older than 100 to 200 years than Muhammad and the rock had absolutely no significance until the 5th century CE.

Fifth the Qur'an's claims to "science" are about as valid as the Bible's claims, and most non-believers find them flimsy at best.

Answer 3

This is coincidence at best. I guess creating out of dirt wouldn't make sense. Air....no that won't work. Ahhhhh I know, water, we all came from water. Proves nothing. If the Qur'an gives detailed instructions on how to build a carburetor then I'll be impressed.

Answer 4

No, it does not explain evolution. Try reading an actual science book about evolution. Even if the Qur'an explained evolution in minute detail, that still wouldn't prove the existence of god(s). It would simply mean you had a book explaining evolution in minute detail.

Answer 5

If you say Qur'an promotes science and scientific principles, then I'm fine with that.

If you then expect me to accept the idea that there is an invisible person called Allah who is all powerful, well I'm just gonna need some proof to believe that.

Are we cool with that?

Answer 6

The Qu'ran states that Allah created them from water, not that they evolved as a result of Allah meddling in the natural order.

Hence, the passage actually says that Allah took water and made them as they are, without evolution, much as the Bible stated that humans are made from dirt as they are, without evolution.

The Qu'ran, like the Bible, has no basis in scientific fact. The recent desire for followers of these faery tale books to find scientific evidence within their pages is nothing more than a sad attempt to gain converts to their twisted imaginings.

There is more science in Gene Roddenberry's "Star Trek" than exists in the pages of the Qu'ran. Perhaps you should put down the hash pipe and get yourself a set of plastic Vulcan ears to glue to your head.

-SD-

Answer 7

From chapter 18 "The Cave":
18:86 "Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring"

This suggests that the sun sets somewhere on Earth. This has been shown to not be scientifically accurate.

I can give you a lot more examples. My point is simply that certain parts of it are accurate while others are not. You can't generalize from the fact that certain parts can be interpreted to be scientifically accurate to the claim that all of the Koran can be shown to be accurate, especially since parts of it can be shown to be inaccurate.

Answer 8

i like the way you assert "I push aside all obtainable Gods through fact they are fake. God instructed US" How do you be responsive to Zeus isn't the authentic god and yours is despatched with the help of devil to confuse you? How do you be responsive to you may have faith him? through fact he says to? in case you have logic, its basically around logic. i've got self assurance undesirable for you. Your quite brainwashed. not because you have self assurance in god yet because you won't be able to look previous your realm of perception. have you ever even puzzled something you study contained in the bible. I wager you have not. Why? through fact it says you may have faith it. And why might they lie? (different then to indoctrinate you into their oblivious fascism) in case you may provide me a stable rationalization why you have faith what the bible says greater then the workings or gods that got here earlier, i would be maximum inspired. (and you will't basically say through fact he's the authentic god! that isn't valid)

Answer 9

Clearly explains evolution? Either you misunderstand evolution, misinterpret the verse, or are lying. I do plan to read the Quran, but only as a study in culture and literature.

Answer 10

It means that you are pushing your preconceptions onto reality and trying to make them fit.


Try it with some of these verses:

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/science/long.html

and then try to tell be that the Qu'ran is scientific.