Why do some christians deny history?

Question

I'm not trying to offend anyone, I have respect for other people's traditions but why is there such a theme of uninformed people. I understand you celebrate the birth of christ on Dec. 25'th. What I don't understand is that people still deny the fact, and it is a fact, that before christianity Romans held a festival on December 25 called Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, the birthday of the unconquered sun , gods from other religions had birthdays on december 25'th and Pagans celebrated the winter solstice in late December. Do you think this is some kind of coincidence or do you just flat out deny it? If you do deny, please look up Natalis Solis Invicti and Yule. By the way I'm not a pagan trying to "steal" your christmas as many of you think I just study history and wondering why more poeple don't also look into things more. Are there any christians that are aware of this and accept it as being true.

also, do you agree with this?

the Christmas celebration was created by the early Church in order to entice pagan Romans to convert to Christianity without losing their own winter celebrations

Answer 1

Because sometimes, the truth just hurts.

Answer 2

No , I sure don't agree that the Christmas holiday was started by the Romans . It was actually started by the ancient Pagans long before Rome was ever established , about 750 BC.
The very early Pagans comupted that the days begin getting longer at the Winter solstice ,so they celebrated with parties , gift giving ,decorating their homes with the sacred evergreen and mistletoe , and many many candles . The holiday was called The Return of Light .
So again , if the Christians stole Christmas from the Romans , the Romans stole it from the much earlier Pagans.

Answer 3

Yeah, I grew up in a Christian home and it was always pretty out-in-the-open. Really, I think it would be far better if we could celebrate Christmas around the historical time of year (although we don't have a specific date) that Jesus was actually born. I've never met anyone who really thought Jesus was born on December 25 or that didn't realize that the dates of most Christian holidays can be traced back to some pagan holiday that the Christians tried to "redeem".

What are the odds of messing with Christmas tradition today? Just about zero - it's a commercial goldmine! Nobody's going to mess with that.

Answer 4

Hi,

I do not deny history for one. Christianity allowed many different cultures and religions to keep some of their old ceremonial vestiges so the transition to Christianity would not be so catastrophic. The only thing was that the ceremonies were now directed to the new God.

You see all of this from vestiges of pagan Rome to the Day Of The Dead in Mexico and Jean Brebeuf;s Huron Christmas Carol in Canada.

In my opinion one cannot understand much of the bible and religion without also learning history, philosophies, economy, religion and sociology of the Ancient world as well as the Medieval world and Reformation.

Mike K

Answer 5

Scripture doesn't support that Christmas as celebrated on December 25th is the birth date of Christ. To the contrary it tells us that: John the Baptist was six months in his mother's womb when Jesus was conceived. The angel of the Lord, Gabriel, visited Mary(Mother of Jesus) on the sixth month and told her that the Holy Spirit would conceive in her a Son. This is the sixth Jewish calander month which in our Gregorian calander month is about 29 days that span both August and September. This puts the birth of Jesus in late spring.
It was an earlier Pope who declared Jesus birth to be December 25th so he could attract pagans to the Christian religion.
I do not call Christmas Jesus' Birthday, but it is a time that attracts many to Christ and I find that very good. Thus, I celebrate that Jesus is called Lord at this time and not his birthday. For any man that calls Jesus Lord declares this by the Spirit of God. (Romans 12 :2 or 3)

Answer 6

All( or just about all) biblical and traditional Judeo-Christian-Islamic customs,festivals, rituals and observances were borrowed( and "circumcized or baptized") from those( including circumcision and baptism) of earlier religions and cultures from Passover to Temple to Succot to Christmasto Muslims holidays and customs.

Catholic and Orthodox and most mainstream Protestant Christians have no problem with recognizing this fact but fundamentalist of every sort are( or tend to be) deep into denial

Of course, the ancient Romans, etc also took religious observances from earlier religions and cultures.

Answer 7

because MANY people believe that they are celebrating his birth and that he would be proud and appreicate it, they forget he doesn't like lying in ANY form, especially using his name to do it. think of ALL the things that happen when you celebrate these holidays.
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The argument of some practicers of loose conduct in their attempt to entice and deceive others in the Christian congregation is that God’s undeserved kindness is great and that he will overlook their sins, since he recognizes their imperfections and fleshly weakness. But Jesus’ half brother Jude spoke of such as being “ungodly men, turning the undeserved kindness of our God into an excuse for loose conduct and proving false to our only Owner and Lord, Jesus Christ.” (Jude 4) Such ones’ profession of Christianity is meaningless. Their service is unacceptable to God; it is as the wise writer of Israel said: “The sacrifice of the wicked ones is something detestable. How much more so when one brings it along with loose conduct.”—Pr 21:27.

Answer 8

I do not know of any Christian who denies the fact that there used to be a pagan/roman holiday celebration on December 25.

And I do not know of any Christian who denies the fact that a lot of pagan festivities have infiltrated our Christian traditions (tree decorating, santa claus, etc.)

But no big deal to me. I celebrate the birth, life, and resurrection of our Lord Jesus EVERY day.

god bless

Answer 9

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Answer 10

I KNOW! I'm a Christian who doesn't celebrate Christmas and people think that I am strange. As soon as I learned about the history of Christmas, I stopped celebrating it. I'm just HAPPY that Jesus was born, it doesn't matter when.

Answer 11

The religious know things by tradition, believing in the veracity of their elders and faith (faith and belief are redundant). It is not appropriate to ask the religious to use a scientific epistemology to know things that science cannot measure.
And don't tell me the Easter bunny isn't real.