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Jesus could not have died for the sins of the world because the Law, as laid down by god forbid human sacrifice. Furthermore, gentiles (non-Jews) had no tie to the Law except for the Noahide Precepts on how to live an honorable life before god. This is purely a doctrine created after Jesus' death in order to deify a man, as was practiced in the polytheistic society of his day.

2007-12-11 01:50:03 · 15 answers · asked by fierce beard 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

For all those who answered that god needed to finally like us, or that such a sacrifice was needed, or that the law needed to be bridged, etc., pull your head out of Christian doctrine for a second. Everything you are saying is being applied anachronistically to the Law as it was placed by god for the Jewish people, forever. You have no understanding of the Law, its practice and its own freedom that it gave to a people who were supposed to represent god on this Earth. If there is any wish I have for Christians is that you study Judaism, First and Second Temple as well as Halachic, Haggadic, Mishnaic and Talmudic to see how utterly pointless and fruitless the foundation of your faith is.

2007-12-11 03:11:11 · update #1

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Not to mention the fact that, it's not really a "sacrifice" if you take it back three days later...

2007-12-11 01:59:57 · answer #1 · answered by The Reverend Soleil 5 · 5 1

You view the life of Jesus independently of the Old Testament, but the entire hope of the Jews was a Messiah. Every single part of the sacrificial system pointed to an spotless and innocent One dying for the sins of another. It was the ultimate correction for the wrong committed by Adam and Eve. To bring us back into atonement with God. It was part of the divine plan since the creation of the world. Pointless? No. In fact the Old Testament is pointless without it.

2007-12-11 02:02:07 · answer #2 · answered by The GMC 6 · 3 2

There are many types and shadows in the Law and even before the Law that told of the real things that were to come:

Genesis 22:8
Abraham answered, "God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son." And the two of them went on together.

John 1:36
When he saw Jesus passing by, he said, "Look, the Lamb of God!"

God was telling of what would occur later, first by example, and then as reality:

Ruth 4:14
The women said to Naomi: "Praise be to the LORD, who this day has not left you without a kinsman-redeemer. May he become famous throughout Israel!

Luke 1:68
"Praise be to the Lord, the God of Israel, because he has come and has redeemed his people.

It is all throughout the Old Testament. God was telling of the times that would come. The Hebrews knew that because God told them, yet so many, so many times would not listen nor adhere to what God said. How many times did God tell them to listen to Him, and how many times did they not listen?

Romans 10:21
But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

So God promised yet again something they as a nation are not listening to:

Deuteronomy 32
21 They made me jealous by what is no god
and angered me with their worthless idols.
I will make them envious by those who are not a people;
I will make them angry by a nation that has no understanding.

And so the proof of the promise is here. We live in the time where the Gentiles perform the will of God, respond to the cornerstone that the builders rejected:

Isaiah 28:16
So this is what the Sovereign LORD says: "See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation; the one who trusts will never be dismayed."

So God laid that cornerstone, and we are not dismayed. He places our hearts in Him, and with the truth His Spirit:

1 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;
from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.

2 The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him—
the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and of power,
the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD -

3 and he will delight in the fear of the LORD.
He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes,
or decide by what he hears with his ears;

4 but with righteousness he will judge the needy,
with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth.

And so God's word lives on the Earth through His Spirit, an those who trust in Him will not be ashamed.

2007-12-11 02:28:57 · answer #3 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 0 1

I'm not overly religious, but it does have a point. If you believe Jesus was in some way God, then God came down to live and experience life as a human and to suffer as humans suffer. In some ways, it's beautiful tale.

2007-12-11 02:09:50 · answer #4 · answered by Colleen 2 · 0 1

The death on a cross was originally an allegorical story about the humiliation of the Jewish people at the hands of Rome. Later, when people began to think of Jesus as a historical figure, they invented the resurrection to account for the fact that no-one knew where he was buried. At that point he started to transform into a savior god and attonement theology was eventually attached to his death.

2007-12-11 01:55:22 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

Nope. Read your bible, and go to church. If you don't do these two things, then it 'will' seem pointless.
You just do not understand is all. It all becomes so clear if you're recieving the right teachings by God through a good pastor. God makes it pretty clear if you want to know the truth my friend.
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you Matthew 7:7

2007-12-11 02:02:07 · answer #6 · answered by Aneres 3 · 1 2

Christ had Mother Words to deliver to humanity. Mother Words are words which are capable of creating new beings and new civilizations when humans hear them and act upon them. That he suffered a tragic and painful martyrdom to deliver these Mother Words indicates the importance that he placed upon them. Their delivery was more important than his continued physical existence. Although not in the popular and commonly believed sense, it is still a sacrifice. What makes Christ's sacrifice so appalling is the value of the gift of the Mother Words he brought for humanity and the ignorant disregard and ingratitude for them. Still they exerted their power and far-reaching effect. Whether he died and came back to life or whether he died and stayed dead doesn't change the impact that these Mother Words have had to transform lives and civilizations.

2007-12-11 01:56:23 · answer #7 · answered by jaicee 6 · 1 3

seeing as how jesus was one of COUNTLESS many gods to "die on a cross, be the son of the (main) god, be betrayed for 20 silver, walk on water, turn water to wine, have 12 deciples"
I don't believe ficticious characters of mythology can actually die for people :) its nonsence, and an offspring of chritian ignorance.

2007-12-11 02:11:36 · answer #8 · answered by DrewM 3 · 2 0

any belief system at all that denies that Christ is the Son of God is a doctrine of demons and an antiChrist..the fact that Jesus rose from the dead is proof that He was no ordinary man,Christianity is based on the resurrection of Christ

2007-12-11 02:07:13 · answer #9 · answered by loveChrist 6 · 0 2

For those who believe no explanations or justifications will really be necessary. For those who do not believe no amount of proving, rationalization or argument will ever be sufficient.

2007-12-11 02:15:43 · answer #10 · answered by Edgar V 2 · 0 1

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