Jehovahs Witnesses, in Exodus 3:2, who is 'Jehovah's angel?

Question

and why, in Exodus 3:6 does this angel identify himself as 'the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob', and, in verse 7 as Jehovah. How can an angel claim to be God unless he is God. Bear in mind that angel means messenger and Jesus was God's ultimate messenger. Is therefore, the 'angel of Jehovah actually Jesus, and, if so, does that not also make him Jehovah God?

ppp-p. I have read my Bible, where do you think the question came from? And my question will not be stupid to JW's, or most other Christians, they will know exactly what I'm talking about.

Jengen: good answer, however, verse 2 says the angel was 'in the midst of the bush' and verse 4 says 'God was in the midst of the bush'. This is my point, clearly I have read the scripture, what I want to know is this, are the angel and God the same?

Answer 1

The angel came as a representative from Jehovah, so it was like Jehovah himself was speaking to Moses.

There are many Biblical examples where in one verse it says an angel came, then later on, as if it were Jehovah himself.

Compare with the following;
**Many believe that Moses spoke to Jehovah directly on Mount Sinai. Look at these verses- Galatians 3:19, Acts 7:38

**Judges 6:11, 14,15,22

**Judges 13:2-18, 22

**Genesis 18:1-19:1

How can your messenger be you yourself? If you carry your own message, then you cannot be called a "messenger". A messenger always carries the message of SOMEONE ELSE.

Answer 2

In bible times, when speaking in someone's name as their representive, is many times referred to as the originiator speaking.

The very fact that the bible identifies Jesus as the messenger, and not the source disproves the trinity.

Jesus himself says "No man has seen God AT ANY TIME"
(Caps by me)

Thus Jesus was telling us Jehovah himself, or God himself did not appear to Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob.

As the image of God, seeing Jesus is the same as see God,
Just as a picture or a mirror reflects the image, what you see is not the real person.

If you believe Jesus is more than an image you are being blinded by Satan.

2 Cor 4:4

If you believe Jesus is more than an image then you are an unbeliever.

2 Cor 4:4

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Answer 3

In legal terms, we use the expression "attorney of power". That means that this person have the capacity of representation, and in any legal environment, like a court room, a trial, or in a simple business operation, the "attorney" will be taken as the client himself. I mean they're not going to say the name of the lawyer or representative, they will say, "The Enterprise" or "The Client" decide this, decide that, accept this, etc.

Am I clear? I hope so.

The angels are messengers of God, they are invested with a... how could say... "divine power of attorney" perhaps? So according with that "power" is perfectly understandable that an angel say "You are fighting against God!" or something like that.

Another example that comes to my mind is, any defense or emergency service like police, red cross, army... when USA send his army somewhere, we say "USA is fighting there right now" We don't say... "General Morris, Captain Stevens, Private Smith, Private Ryan... (a long long etc.), are fighting there right now"... right?

I hope this help you somehow.

Greetings,
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Answer 4

Two things happened 1. The angel appeared in the bush then went.
2 God saw him going to the bush and then spoke from the bush.

Answer 5

Jehovah God uses angels, visions and dreams to talk to his followers.

Exo 33:20 states “And he added: “You are not able to see my face, because no man may see me and yet live”

So in order for his followers not to die, God uses a channel, such as angels to transmit his messages.

Jehovah could have used Jesus as angel because Jesus is the Word. It doesn’t mean though that the channel used is God himself. The angels are not God themselves, visions and dreams are not God.

Answer 6

THE ANGEL OF GOD AND GOD HIMSELF TALK TO MOSES

Exo.3:1 Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law,
the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of
the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb.
3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of
fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold,
the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
3:3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great
sight, why the bush is not burnt.
3:4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God
called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses,
Moses. And he said, Here am I.
3:5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from
off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.
3:6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of
Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid
his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.

Answer 7

This was the first coming of Jesus Christ onto this earth and the Essenes wrote about the second coming of Messiah between 350 BC and until AD in the scriptures that have been translated so far. If Jesus had come the second time then there is no doubt as to his second presence on this earth evermore. Makes you wonder doesn't it.

Then if we believe the Egyptian version of Mosses, then Jesus was actually killed on the mountain top with Mosses. So then, if this is true then, who was the later Jesus killed by the Romans.

Answer 8

no angel would claim to be god as Jehovah is god and the first angel was his son Jesus who is not a god ....as we are are all children of god would that make us all gods ...dont think so

Answer 9

Could be he brings a message from the father. It seems the father has many sons but no wherre does it tell who the mother is.

If I place God and Jehovah together remove a few letters then we might get Goovah, or Jehgod:
What does it matter these stories were written over 2000 years ago give or take a couple of thousand. Or that is what we are told.

Answer 10

"Mal'ak" describes a person or persons who, as representatives of an individual or community, are charged with representing at some distance the interests of their principals to others.

"Mal'ak Jehovah" or mal'ak Elohim is a phrase that has special meaning. It describes one commissioned by God to carry out His mission among people.

Ex 3:2 "mal'ak Y@hovah ra'ah labbah 'esh tavek c@nah ra'ah c@nah ba`ar 'esh c@nah 'akal"