Why do Christians make claims that they are unwilling to prove? Pagans are welcome?

Question

They say they believe in miracles and when asked to do one they come up with some B.S reason why they wont
Is it that they wont or is it that they cant ?

I have given christians many chances to prove the power they have and not once did one ever do so .
When Ive been asked to prove my power I invite them to a ceremony and they wont come
What are they afraid of ?

Christians really fear us Witches dont they?

Answer 1

How about this miracle?
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-BYLCI14waatRCG7bDVrLiy2aIuzT?p=347

Answer 2

The easiest answer to your question is to say that the days of christians performing miracles is long since over.

Miracles were performed by the Apostles to confirm the word of God. With miracles, they were able to prove that what they were saying, preaching, and doing were of God. Jesus promised the twelve that they would have this power, imparted to them by the Holy Spirit (John 14:26; 16:13; Acts 1:8 ) and what it would specifically allow them to do. We find that shortly after the church was established, the Apostles were able to impart this power to others by laying their hands upon them (Stephen, Phillip, and others), but those to whom it was imparted were unable to impart this power further. In other words, those who the Apostles gave the power to, were unable to give it to anyone else.

So, after the last Apostle died, these miraculous events ceased, as the Bible prescribes (1 Corinthians 13:8-10; James 1:25). With the Apostles putting the Word of God in written form, there was no further need for the truth to be confirmed in such manner. That is why many today are unable to perform such miracles. They will tell you that they can, but when pressed to prove their power, they will come up with any and every excuse as to why they can't or won't.

Some of the best examples are the "healing" services and the "exorcisms" that have been perpetrated (yeah, that's right! I said it) by the various televangelists (Benny Hinn in particular) and denominational ministers. When Jesus and the Apostles performed miracles, they were done instantaneously. You didn't have to wait around to see the results later. They were immediate. When the sick was healed, it happened right then and there. When the possessed where exorcised, it took only a matter a seconds, not hours or days as is proclaimed and perpetrated today. Jesus told them to come out of whomever they were in, and they did. No one has that kind of power any more.

Even the "speaking in tongues" is a sham. A tongue is a language...a known language. When the Apostles spoke in tongues on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:4-12), the people around them were surprised because

1.These men were Gallileans, but spoke in languages that were previously unknown to them.

2. As they spoke, everyone present (from various nations) heard them in their own languages.

This showed the power of God.

Later, Paul would write that if any spoke in tongues, let it be by two or three, and let one intrepret (translate). If there were no translater present, then they should just be quiet (1 Corinthians 14:27-28).

In conclusion, you will not find anyone able to perform genuine miracles today. Miracles were done to prove that the miracle worker was of God. Jesus performed miracles to confirm that he was the Son of God. The Apostles performed miracles to confirm the Word of God. Now, that we have the Word of God in written form (The Bible), there is no further need for one to be convinced by such displays of power. Besides, the next miracle that everyone sees will be the last and the greatest anyway. That will be the Lord Jesus coming back to get his church, and to judge the world (Matthew 24:29-31; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18).

I'm looking forward to seeing that one!!

Answer 3

Why ever would you demand that they ask their god to perform on command? I am certain that many Christians will be happy to quote you an example of the many recorded miracles that they believe in. (For instance, the miracle of transubstantiation, as the Catholics and Anglicans call it.) Are you cheeky enough to demand Hecate or Gaia or Vulcan or Zeus to perform on command...before unbelievers?

Do you want to go to mass to witness their miracle?
Then why are you pressing them to attend your ritual?

Besides, your approach to having power weakens any magic you may succeed in performing. Braggarts claim power; the powerful simply act...or refrain from action.

As a Pagan since 1966, a Witch since 1980, and a Wiccan since 1995, I truly feel that you are stepping over the boundaries of Witchcraft teachings.

Whether I call it the Law of Return, you call it the Rule of Three, or they call it the Golden Rule, I truly feel that you are exemplifying exactly the sort of evangelical, proselytizing, and missionary Christian sect behaviors that I most detest.

Jews & Christians say:
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

People say:
"What goes around, comes around."

Witches say:
"Ever mind the Rule of Three, thrice what thou giv'st returns to thee."

Sir Isaac Newton said:
"For every action, there is an equal but opposite re-action."

Enough said.

P.s. Please learn to use apostrophes. The word "wont" means "customary". The word "won't" means "will not". Likewise, the word "cant" means "slang"; the word "can't" means "cannot".

Answer 4

I know of no Christian that says that they, themselves, have some sort of magical power. God has the power, not me. Being a Christian doesn't mean you can control nature, other people, etc. etc. If that were the case, I guess I could expect to live forever and never die. I guess I could expect to win the lottery every time I need some money. Sorry Charley, but it don't work that way. What power do you have? Please reply with the winning numbers on the New York lottery before the drawing so we all can get some extra cash. I'm thinking of taking an air flight to Atlanta. Please show off your power and fly by the jet, give us all a wave, when we are on our way. You have powers? Show us. .

Answer 5

I don't fool with trying to argue with christians over my religion. I don't care what they think. I know what is right for me and that is enough. Arguing with them would just give them the excuse to proselytize and I don't want to hear what they have to say. I haven't heard anyone come up with a new argument that makes any sense, so they can save their breath.

They aren't going to go to apagan ceremony because of FEAR. They have been brainwashed into thinking we worship the christian devil. I think they are afraid they would open themselves up to the devil, or posession, something. My own mother, a good christian woman, was freaked out when she went to Salem , Mass. She could "feel the devil " all over that town. LOL!!! I asked , " well, why the hell did you go? YOu knew there would be witches there!!! "

Answer 6

Just because one believes in miracles doesn't mean they have the power to perform them (I believe in the ability to make a shot from the 3 point line but I myself am horrible at basketball so I wouldn't even waste my time trying). Ergo, your premise is wrong.

Some christians are scared of witches (I have no idea why, as they have no power), others just don't want to encourage or be associated with that group of people (it has nothing to do with being scared).

As for me, fanatical christians and self-righteous and self-deluded pagans frighten me.

Answer 7

So... let me get this straight. You say there is power in your ceremonies, yet you doubt Christian claims of miracles? Is this not talking out of both sides of your mouth?

I am not foolish enough to doubt the power that comes from your "ceremonies". I have seen it for myself. Yet you are foolish enough to doubt the power that comes from my God. Interesting and yet disingenuous at the same time.

My God does not jump through hoops for the pleasure of a detractor. However, have a good night anyway.

--edit I don't fear you. Let's just say I have a certain respect for the source of your power. No, fear is not the right word at all.

Answer 8

It would be a sin for a Christian to try and demonstrate God's power using their own efforts as a show to convince you or anyone else that He exist.... That also would pretty much destroy the "faith" He ask us to have in Him.

By simply giving God the chance He deserves as your Creator and tryng to understand His word, you would have known that miracles are done through people by God, not by people... and according to God's timetable, not mankinds.

Answer 9

It is God who performs miracles. The Holy Spirit of God uses those who have the gifting in miracles to perform them. Not every Christian can perform miracles because they do not have the gift. This does not stop Christians from believing in miracles.

Answer 10

I do not know exactly what you are referring to and who are these Christians. God is the One Who does the miracles and we can do nothing. There is many now claiming to heal and do many wonders and they are false prophets and false teachers. They always tell those who they are willing to heal to have faith if they cannot heal them then they have an excuse they did not have faith. No where in the bible does it say we need to have faith to be healed but there have been many healed who never even expected. The devil can counterfeit supposed miraculous experiences that are not of God. There is a spirit of Truth, and there is a spirit or error. I John 4:1-6.

The greatest miracle that God will do for you is to save you from eternal punishment if only you are willing to accept it

Answer 11

We will never know for sure the answers to your questions. However, I suppose part of the problem rests in how one defines miracle, for it seems that 'miracle' entails a rather wide scope of possibilities (and it involves magic). My wiccan pagan temple tends to avoid 'miracle' and 'magic' in the Hollywood movie sense (though we don't deny magic nor do we reject it).