What is exactly the trinity concept?

Question

in Old Testament, please open Deuteronomy 4 : 35,
"Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the Lord is God; there is none else beside Him."
In New Testament, Mark 12 : 29,
"And Jesus answered him, the first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord."
Iigave two examples of Christians misunderstandings about the trinity concept.those examples clearly shown that God is the only One and there is no other God except A God.
please open Matthew 27 : 46,
"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli lama sabachthani? That is to say, My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
if Jesus lived to be crucified, why did Jesus reject it and cried for help from God so that he could be free from being crucified. that means Jesus was not ready to be a saviour.
then,i want o ask all of you something, were the persons who crucified Jesus angered by God?

Answer 1

The trinity doctrine was developed over time long after scripture.

It is not scriptural.

There are 33 misapplied or mistranslated verses used to support the trinity doctrine.
There are hundreds of verses that support the fact there is only One True God that has an only begotten Son named Jesus.

Answer 2

Deu 4:35 Unto thee it was showed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.

This refers to the Lord God, the Father who is the mightest

Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

Jesus as man is telling to the people of Israel that there is one Lord God, the Father

Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?


Jesus Christ was praying to the Lord God who is mightier than Him to let the people know that through prayers, we can ask help from God.
He did not fight and he did never tasked his desciples to fight back when He was arrested by the Jews to let him be crucified. He just wanted to imply that the Jews who crucified him can realize that He too is God who was sent by the Lord God the Father to the earth as man to save sinners from sinning at that time but not on our present time.

There is no trinity here. The word trinity is not in the bible, but in one God, there are three intities (God, the Father, God, the Sone and the Holy Spirit) and they are in one God

Answer 3

I'm not sure if this is the answer you're looking for but here is what I believe. No. Jesus Christ was forgiving the people that crucified Him. They were killing an innocent man. Just like the apostle Stephen told God when he was being stoned in Acts 7:57-60. And as for your other question about their being a trinity, God is three persons. There is God the Holy Spirit ( that tiny voice that tells you that ur doing wrong, aka conscience), God the Son (Jesus Christ, who was both human and God.), and God the Father (the God of the universe, Creator of all things). If you have anymore questions write me.

Answer 4

The trinity includes the following definite ideas:

1. There are said to be three divine persons—the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit—in the Godhead.

2. Each of these separate persons is said to be eternal, none coming before or after the other in time.

3. Each is said to be almighty, with none greater or lesser than the other.

4. Each is said to be omniscient, knowing all things.

5. Each is said to be true God.

6. However, it is said that there are not three Gods but only one God.

Search as you may, you will not find one scripture that uses the word Trinity, nor will you find any that says that Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom. Not even a single scripture says that the Son is equal to the Father in those ways—and if there were such a scripture, it would establish not a Trinity but at most a “duality.” Nowhere does the Bible equate the holy spirit with the Father.

The Illustrated Bible Dictionary records: "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible. . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century."

The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits that the Trinity "is not. . . directly and immediately the word of God."

The Encyclopedia of Religion admits: "Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity."

The Encyclopedia of Religion says: "Theologians agree that the New Testament also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity."

The New Encyclopedia Britannica reports: "Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament."

The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology confirms: "The New Testament does not contain the developed doctrine of the Trinity."

Answer 5

First of all you are reading the text wrong. in your first verse you are taking it out of context. It is the writer saying that the Israelites Lord is God not Asher or Baal or any other God they had. they would worship God and all these at one time. The second verse Is the same it means literally that Yahweh or God is one God not a multitude of Gods. It mean have only one God not a bunch of pagan Gods. Jesus does say" that if you have seen me you have seen the father." so that means they are a part of each other. It is like a marriage. The holy ghost is basically a "spiritual Jesus" that can move freely. This is kinda vague but I hope it helps.


Also my God ....... that verse is written and many have no ideas on it . One idea is and I like this it to show that Jesus felt the pain he was human at this time still God did not suppress this feeling.

Answer 6

Peace.....

The Lord is God-none else beside Him: tells us that God is the ultimate and only God. The trinity are not separate "Gods" but "one", as Jesus said, "I am in the Father and the Father is in me".....in turn Jesus said, "I will leave you the Paraclete (Holy Spirit) when I am gone....again meaning "one" and the same - God sent Jesus to teach us, and Jesus left the Holy Spirit to remind and guide us when He ascended to the Father in heaven. BE CLEAR that the Trinity does not imply or mean SEPARATE GODS.....The Trinity is God coming to us in 3 ways, because it was the only way He could reach us and teach us.

My God, why hast thou forsaken me: Jesus was suffering terribly in the flesh and remembering that everything Jesus said and did in His ministry was to teach us something. Asking God why He had forsaken Him is to teach us that we will/can get to that point in our suffering - feeling abandoned and alone. Jesus knew beforehand that God was asking this of Him - the Crucifixion - and even asked God, "To let this cup pass from me, IF IT IS YOUR WILL", which He knew it wasn't.
He was perhaps hoping there was another way, but knew in His heart there wasn't. Jesus was also teaching us that there will be some very empty moments in our life and that is when God comes - especially when He said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do" - after asking for forgiveness, He was released from the pain and suffering.

Angered by God: The people who crucified Jesus were afraid and confused about Jesus and His ministry as well as the humility He showed. They did not understand Him. Also, Jesus said, "There will be the unteachables".....Remember that there were political cliques and these people all had their role in the Mission and Plan of God - they were used by God to complete the work and He PERMITTED their behavior. I don't think they were as angry as they were not understanding. There are many people today, who still do not understand. It is a blessing when one finally receives the grace to understand and accept the message and teachings of Jesus Christ. God Bless you today and always! "orthros"

Answer 7

Father , son and Holy ghost (spirit). One begat the other. The trinity.From the father he begat the son of god and with the son going unto the father through the mortal death left behind the Holy spirit in his place here on earth for all. The old testament quote is irrelevant to the words of Jesus Christ unless he makes reference to those mentioned in the old testament.The Jesus we read about had all the human emotions and passion of any other human being and maybe more. who is to say?If he crys out to his father who are we to wonder why? When's the last time you were crusified? Did you call out to some one? I probably would.

Answer 8

Read Genesis 1:1. The very first verse in the Bible: "In the beginning, God created..." Now go find the Hebrew word used for God here - El-o-heem. It is plural. Furthermore, in the same book, God says "Let us make man in our image". Us and our are plural too. Who was he speaking to?.

As for Matthew 27:46, before they had references to verses, you simply started quoting the passage to which you wanted people to refer to. Jesus wasn't calling out to God - he was quoting a reference that he wanted the people to refer to - a prophesy about him in Psalm 22:18, where, amongst other things, king David predicted that lots ( dice or straws ) would decide how Christ's clothes would be divided.

Jesus didn't reject the his death - he went like a lamb to the slaughter - as prophesied in Jeremiah 11:19. This is why he prayed in the garden 'not my will, but thine be done'.

Answer 9

In the bible the people loved Jesus for the miracles and His compassion !!!
The Romans wanted no competition with there god CEASAR and a few priestly jews wanted Jesus out of th way !!! The God of heaven had a plan to redeem sinful men !!! We cannot abide by all of the commandments so we are not perfect !!!
The law is perfect and we can't seem to live by it 100% of the time !!! So we were sent perfection to redeem us !!! He becomes our perfection for us, so when the Father looks at us He sees Jesus !!!

To answer your 1st question go here
http://www.carm.org/doctrine/trinitylook.htm

Here are more answers to fulfill your quest for knowledge !!!

Here are some facts for you to consider in your trip thru life !!!

http://www.carm.org/doctrine/100truths.h...

Here is some fulfilling prophesies that we are now living in !!!

A. Some would depart from the faith and go into devil worship-1 Tim 4:1.


B. People would mock about the last days and not believe-2 Pe 3:3; Jude 18.

C. People would become lovers of themselves-2 Tim 3:1,2.

D. People would be disobeying their parents-2 Tim 3:1,2.

E. People would be grateful for nothing-2 Tim 3:1,2.
F. Homosexuality would increase-Lk 17:28,30; ref Gen 19:5; Ro 1:24,26,27.

G. People would be without self-control in sex-2 Tim 3:1,2,6; Rev 9:21, Lk 17:28,30; Jude 7. Is this not the great sex generation?

H. People would love pleasures more than God-2 Tim 3:1,2,4. Remember, these were all predicted centuries ago as part of the signs that we are at the time of the end.


I.People would be taking drugs-Rev 9:21. The Greek word for sorceries, in Rev 9:21, means pharmaceuticals or drugs.

Note: Fifty years ago, many people seldom locked their doors at night. There was little or no profanity on television, radio, or in the movies. One of the biggest problems in public school was gum chewing. Those days are long gone.

There is hope on the horizon, check out the future below !!!

#1: The Rapture Of The Church (This could happen now) 1 Thess. 4:15,17; 1 Cor. 15:51,53

#2: The Judgment Seat Of Christ (This will happen in heaven where believers will be judged according to their works and receive or lose rewards. 2 Cor. 5:10; Romans 14:10-12

#3: The Marriage Of The Lamb (This will happen in heaven) Rev. 19:7

#4: The Seven Sealed Book - The Crisis (This will occur right after the rapture) Rev. 4

#5: The Tribulation (Known also as: Jacob's Trouble & Daniel's 70th week)

#6: The Second Coming of Christ (Will be visible and invincible) Rev. 1:7

#7: The Millennium (The Reign of Christ on Earth For one-thousand years) Rev. 20:4

#8: The Final Revolt Of Satan - Revelation 20:7,9

#9: The Great White Throne Judgment (Where Sinners Are judged and cast into the lake of fire) Rev. 10:11,15

#10: The Destruction Of This Present Earth And Surrounding Heavens 2 Peter 3:10,11

#11: The New Creation Of Heaven And Earth - Revelation 21:1

IF YOU WANT THE RIDE OF YOUR LIFE AND A SECURE FUTURE !!! TRACK AND DO THE FOLLOWING !!!

[Rom 5:8] But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
[1John 1:8] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
[1John 1:9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
[Rom 10:9] That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
[Rom 10:10] For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
[Mat 10:32] Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

Answer 10

the structure or formula for God is not really something we can totally fully explain easily. People have been debating the Trinity concept for many many years, even though it is not a term that we explicitly see in the Bible. Check out the wiki entry, it will give you a good run down of the history and arguments:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity

What is important, however, is how we view God's authority in our lives. This is of fundamental importance, while the "formula for God" is secondary.

For example, you couldn't say you believe in Jesus without accepting the power and authority of the Holy Spirit, nor then could you reject the Father's status, who sent Jesus, and works all things together for good for those who love Him. To us mere humans, they are essentially all God. if you lie to the Holy Spirit you lie to God. If you were to ignore Jesus sacrifice you are rejecting the Father's offer of salvation and the opportunity for restored relationship with the Father by the Holy Spirit. Such is their unity that you can't believe or follow just one "part of God" because to us they all have the same authority over our lives.

Thinking correctly about God's offer of salvation through Christ, and the promise of the Holy Spirit to change our lives is essential to understanding God's nature, because He has fully revealed himself to us through Christ and the testimony of the Holy Spirit. Pray about it, ask God to reveal himself to you through His word, and rely daily on His Spirit to lead and guide you into truth.

Answer 11

There are 2 o.t.'s; God's the regulation of Moses and devil's o.t. being Genesis-Malachi. placed yet in a distinctive way; torah and o.t. are no longer the comparable. As for the trinity; i'm going to point that Melchisadek exchange into God the daddy; reference Heb. 7, him being the King of Peace (Heb. 7:2) together as Jesus exchange into the Prince of peace. The Spirit; Gen. a million.