atheist point of life?

Question

I'm not a Christian trying to prove "god" or be a smarta$$ and question your beliefs. I'm just asking. If this miserable life is all, shouldn't I just kill myself and get it over with? Please no Christians telling me everyone has a purpose, NO, we live to die anyway.

Why live at all if I just die anyway? You get me? Please I'm very serious.

Don't tell me to see a shrink, I don't have any mental issues, depression is bull people just want pills.

I forgot to add, I see NO point in getting married and having kids, I mean really. I'm not really working for anything because, I could just get hit by a bus lol.

My point is live, learn, die. Whats the point of all that? Preach about your kids but I don't have kids, don't want them. And you can't really compare a movie and book to life in my opinion.

You don't even know how long humans live, stop acting like idiots! You know that if you step out of your house you have a chance of dying, thats my point. Life is so easy given and so easy taken, so there is NO point if it all ends.

Answer 1

Actually I find that I place a great value on this all too short life. I can't imagine why any who doesn't believe in an afterlife could possibly want to kill themselves.

No afterlife means this life is much too precious to waste.

And as far as a purpose to life, one of the best things about being a non-theist is that I make my own purpose.

"Why live at all if I just die anyway? You get me? Please I'm very serious. "

No, not really. You sound like you don't want to be preached to or coddled so... Maybe you have no purpose at the moment but in all brutal honesty that's your fault. Everyone does indeed die yep even Christians. And regardless of how hard they believe it they have no more idea of what happens after we die than my goldfish. They hope they pray they refuse to accept it but honestly not one of them can prove it even to themselves.

So we're all here making our own purpose even if someone's purpose is convincing themselves that they have some divine purpose.

Answer 2

The point is to get over yourself. Life can have "meaning" beyond my personal experience. How I live can add to the wisdom of experience that helps humanity survive and improve its lot as a species. Each of us benefits from those who have gone before, whether personally remembered or not. And even if I don't achieve anything that makes it into the history books, I keep the species going by my sheer participation.

I'm not selling "duty" either, although we all feel it at some time. Life has its joys and triumphs as well as its sorrows and failures. Attitude has a lot to do with how well we live it. Why do we play games or go on amusement rides? They all end and even winning doesn't mean much outside of the event. But they are fun! They involve interaction and participation, which is enjoyable by itself. Even under the worst circumstances, living is always preferable to having no experience at all. This instinct is a species survival tactic that evolved in us, as surely as self-awareness, memory and the capacity for abstract thought. It's worrying about "significance" that depresses people.

Why are stories always better than life? Because they are edited to minimized the disappointments and chaos and to provide a dramatic flow and resolution. But without life, there would be nothing to make stories out of. And even though stories are idealized, they resonate with the listener because they show what living is about.

Biology tells us to be protective, conservative, and to look out for Number One. Stories tell us to be altruistic, to risk our survival to fight selfishness and benefit the helpless. We don't really live happily ever after, but we can understand the idea. WE (not I) can live happily, or at least peacefully, ever after, if we take life more seriously than we do our egos. Seeking my own "happiness" is seeking stagnation, withdrawal, anesthesia. Seeking the good of all enriches everyone, and even feels good on some level, even when it makes my personal life more precarious. Most of the people on this forum get a pretty decent turn at life. We shouldn't resent our turn ending when it gives someone else a turn.

Answer 3

Point and meaning and purpose all require an intelligent plan or design. That's what those words refer to.

There is no intelligent plan or design unless there is God.

“Unless you assume a God, the question of life’s purpose is meaningless.” –Bertrand Russell

Russell was a famous 20th century mathematician, philosopher and Nobel Laureate. He was also an atheist but he was honest enough to see that, without God, there could be no such thing as purpose.

You're absolutely right about the depression bit, this is a real problem and not some mental problem we can fix with pills.

If God created us, then it must be that He has put this awful need for point/purpose/meaning into our human nature to get us off our butts and to seek Him. Therefore, seeking God IS our purpose. And the point of our existence is to find Him and experience Him.

We cannot invent our own reason/point of existence; our reason for our existence either resides with God, or if God doesn't exist, THERE IS NO POINT.

Answer 4

I understand what you are saying. But, you've got to understand that you are only given one chance at life. That is it. Nothing before, nothing after, no chance to ever redo it if you miss out. It may not be fair, at all, but we need to try our hardest to get the most out of life, in whatever we can. Whether it is financial success, raising children to carry on your memory, to love someone, or to just sit by and watch the sky, sleep beneath the trees, and be brought to tears by nature's beauty. We will die anyway, so why rush? I know that it may seem hopeless, pointless, but, really...we shouldn't even exist at all! Through some technical loophole, however, we do...and, even for that short time that we remain, we should try to exploit this clerical error called living for all it is worth.

Sorry if this seems like a rather paltry rationale for "being". I am a heartless pessimist to the core, but yet I still have some moments of weakness (especially when it comes to suicide, nature, and children...not necessarily at once...). I am not sure if life is particularly meaningful for any reasons but the ones that you decide to give to it. If you don't want children, can't rely on friends, have no family, and have no one that you love enough that your death would bring no harm to no one else, then the issue of finding a purpose is difficult. However, it is not impossible to feel self-fulfilled without relying on the presence of other people. If you are able to do that, it should be fairly apparent why life is worth it...but, I for one am not at such a point in my life to give such an account to you...

Answer 5

"existence beginning" is a colloquial term. this is ineffective for scientific applications. Technically, the gamete is the made from the synthesis of the two the egg and the sperm. the two the egg and the sperm cells have been alive on the ingredient of concept, and that they on no account "died" while they synthesized. Technically, the recent organism formed as quickly as fertilization occured. yet this is extremely beside the point to any ethical questions. Why might the 4 cells made out of fertilization be of to any extent further or much less intrinsic fee than the different cells? those cells may be subsumed back into the physique of the mum. they might chop up off, by way of fact the cells undergo mitosis, to form 2 seperate organisms. You seem caught on innovations-physique dualism. maximum atheists have not got faith in "souls". there is unquestionably no information to help the existence of souls, and a huge physique of information that shows that the behaviour of human beings is truthfully a made from the innovations. Souls have not have been given any scientific credibility, and consequently should not be suggested if we are paying interest to issues like "fabric information". we ought to consistently in basic terms evaluate what all of us comprehend. the actual question is, while (if ever) does the fetus strengthen the suitable residences to be seen as a guy or woman? added, what are those suitable residences? those questions can not be responded via technology by myself; they contain fee judgements. in spite of the undeniable fact that, there's a everyday consensus interior the scientific communty that fetuses are sufficiently developed for the duration of the third trimester to be worth of a few ethical attractiveness. Others decide this ingredient based off of independence from the mum's physique. i might accept as true with the scientific community at great that the fetus will become morally suitable at around the third trimester, for many motives, which I won't checklist in finished right here. (this does not handle the mum's perfect to actual autonomy, which demands yet another reaction) i will circulate away my earlier questions unanswered, becauase i've got not got a reliable objective reaction to them. yet they're nonetheless important, if in basic terms to steer one's diagnosis of the moral relevance of the fetus. (that's the actual question right here)

Answer 6

You are deluded on so many levels. I won't even touch on your gross misconception of depression.

My life isn't miserable at all. I have a wonderful life full of love. I have wonderful children. I dance. I laugh a lot. Life is a beautiful thing. It doesn't matter if you live your life to "serve" a God. That's good for you, if you believe in it. But I do not need some book to dictate my behavior. I don't need some excuse for my shortcomings (i.e. I'm human therefore it is natural that I "sin"). I take responsibility for my actions. I don't need an excuse to be a good person. I just am.

Life is what you make it. And I don't need an ancient tome of myth to tell me what that.

I won't tell you to see a shrink. What I will do is tell you to get some education.

Answer 7

In response, I'd ask you why you think life is meaningless and purposelessness unless there's a God and he gives you an afterlife?

I'd even go a little further and ask you, frankly, who do you think you are, really? What makes you think you're entitled to commune with God, have eternal life and so forth? Why do you think you're so special that just one lifespan being a human isn't good enough for you?

I think I'm pretty lucky to be a human living in this time and in the place I live. I lead a life better than most people, living or dead, could dream of living. If this is it, well, I'm going wind up way ahead on points.

Answer 8

"Why live at all if I just die anyway?"

Let's see if this logic makes sense from another viewpoint.

Why eat ice cream if the bowl will be empty eventually?

Why ride a rollercoaster if the ride will be over soon anyway?

Why watch a movie if it'll just be over in 2 hours?



We live because we *enjoy* living, or because we dislike the idea of living less than we dislike the idea of dying. Hopefully for you, it's the former and not the latter. There is no universal point to life.

Answer 9

I feel for you, really. To focus on death when there is so much life to be lived must be a terrible existence. I wonder why you assumed that only Christians would tell you that you have a purpose? I'm an atheist and I know I have a purpose. I see it in my children's eyes every morning and I live it more and more with each passing day. There is much to enjoy in life, far too much to waste it or end it.

I hope you keep searching until you find your purpose!

Answer 10

dieing is so easy and living is hard. life is everything ask som1 who doesnt have too long to live the value of life. u seem really ungratful no offense. we will coz we want to for our families,friends and want to do something good in the world. V all have a reson for being on this earth.