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There have been many questions on here today regarding the Christian biologist that was fired because he did not believe in evolution. I have a question- how can a biologist who studies life- miss the point that God created it? Life is so complex, how could we get here without being created. Just one thing about life is to amazing to me, not to believe. Every baby conceived from the first had a different set of fingerprints then the next-- NOT one person has the same set of fingerprints- this has to be by divine design.

2007-12-10 08:44:58 · 42 answers · asked by AdoreHim 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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because even biology SHOWS THE CREATOR

and if he continued to show its TRUTHS

they wouldnt be funded by the goverment
and they just cant allow that to happen
so they fired them

its OK

its says this
"" God is not mocked for whateosver a man soweth that shall he also reap , if he soweth to the flesh then of the flesh he shall reap corruption , but if he soweth to the spirit then of the spirit he shall reap life everlasting"


He lost nothing , he gained LIFE , for standing up for TRUTH

Woe.. to them who have abided in iniquity they shall reap what they sowed by it.................

2007-12-10 08:53:24 · answer #1 · answered by hghostinme 6 · 1 4

Actually, it has never been proven that there are no two people with the same fingerprints. This is just one of those pieces of knowledge that everybody "just knows". Out of the billions of people on the planet, it is not out of reality to believe that two of them have the same fingerprints. I mean, there are pretty much only so many patterns that can happen. However, to find these two people would be next to impossible. I figure, with the increase in fingerprint technology combined with enough time, we will find two people with the same fingerprints.

Almost all biologists believe that evolution is the core idea behind biology. There are exceptions. However, most see evolution as the explanation of the variety of life on the planet. There is just too much evidence to indicate anything else. Evidence such as fossils, comparative anatomies of closely related animals, genetic studies, and DNA sequencing.

2007-12-10 08:51:27 · answer #2 · answered by A.Mercer 7 · 4 0

You don't give random chance enough credit. I could show you an equation, YA doesn't have the right symbols for it, which generates a random never repeatign pattern infintely.
Do a google on "fractals" and you'll get some good images. Most of the images of the mandelbrot set make fingerprints look like fingerpainting.

All this aside, evolution does not deal with the origin of life. It merely expreses how it functions right now, and probably in the past. A biologist not beleiving in evolution is like a chemist not beleiving in acid. Or, in terms you might relate to better, a preacher not beleiving in Jesus's resurection.

2007-12-10 08:50:45 · answer #3 · answered by juicy_wishun 6 · 2 0

Being a biologist doesn't effect one's philosophical view concerning God and the purpose of life. After all, biology is the product of scientific method; which its self is used to study the material world only.

If a biologist is an existentialist he's unlikely to accept that God creates everything (like Nietzsche doesn't)

Conversely, if a biologist prefer's a buddhist/metaphysical philosophy, they are likely to think of self as spirit within a material body. Ergo a God could potentially have created all physical laws and set the material world into motion.

Personally, I think both extreame positions are an illusion,, that is to say that Evolution should be considered a tool for creation (like a self governing computer program). Whilst most theists see God as internal (like an inner spirit), or as an external deity (like God the father); I see God as both within us (as spirit), external (as the sum of all conciousness and energies) and within all components of matter. Ergo God is everything and everything is in God. That way both metaphysics and existentialism meet in the middle.

Finger prints are determined genetically. In the developing embryo, cells move from one region to another and
within regions before cell fates and destinations are finalized. It seems
likely that local cell movement variations in each embryo would be a cause of
somewhat different fingerprint patterns. They are not designed by God personally,, but result from the quirks of the material world (which is itself is Gods creation).

2007-12-10 09:17:27 · answer #4 · answered by Yoda 6 · 0 0

Wow. You're using an arguement based on fallacy. Try to take basic biology in college before you start formulating some ridiculous "theory" on why everything "has to be by divine design." Just because you don't have the capacity to grasp anything outside the realm of your religion doesn't mean that everything has to be "created by god." Instead of wasting your time praying to some imaginary being, why not try to read books or at least google "protein synthesis" (relates to fingerprint). Religion and god are nothing more than man-made concepts used to fill-in the gaps. Unfortunately, some people are too lazy or just too attached to religion that they can't accept this fact and let go of old superstitions.

As for the biologist's case, there's no room for ignorance in science. You don't see pastors asking for miracles instead of doctors using medical procedures in hospitals do you?

2007-12-10 08:56:57 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Just to throw my two cents in: The scientist is the science world's version of the christian world's pastor, preacher, or some other who expounds "wisdom" onto others. They tell us what is really going on. They believe fully in what they're doing.

Scientists, however, base their research on cold, hard fact. They get an idea, study it, come to a conclusion. If that conclusion bears no evidence, we hold it to be false, and it is thrown away. If it points to a lot of evidence, we hold it to be true, and keep it, and tell it to others that they should know.

We hold not one single shred of evidence that anything other than random chance and mutation created life as we know it. Not all life is complex. Many organisms are just a chain of cells that consume and keep themselves alive. Larger organisms are innumerable chains of these cells that do their best to keep each other alive. Systems are developed over long periods of time to keep said organisms alive even longer. This is exactly what evolution is.

We have proof of evolution on a fairly small scale. We have seen it. We are not able to reject it, because we hold it to be true, and we keep all true things. A biologist throwing away evolution is no different than a christian throwing away the idea that your god exists.

As far as fingerprints, when you have trillions of trillions of possibilities of random ones, and only about 6 billion people on the planet, it's not hard to believe that you could easily get a random one that isn't in use at this time. There is really no way to tell if people have re-used fingerprints, because there were no records at the beginning of mankind's life. They had more important things to worry about, like survival.

2007-12-10 09:10:03 · answer #6 · answered by Phoenix_Slasher 4 · 1 1

Guess I missed the questions. How sad, he was fired.
I totally agree with what you say.

Why NOT?

God's most beautiful creatures are under the ocean. I met a woman who was a marine biologist/scientist from England. She was studying the conk shell when I met her, and explained to me what she had learned about conk shells, and their reproductive life. It HAS to be God!! Because even a conk shell expert can't tell which are male and female, just by "looks alone." God is magnificent in His underwater show. I was so fortunate to have been able to see these absolutely most profound, beautiful, awesome protected reefs once. And I pray for the opportunity to go back. Like a rainbow underwater. The colors were awesome. Biologists are allowed to believe in God. They get up-close!

2007-12-11 05:30:22 · answer #7 · answered by C Sunshine 6 · 0 0

yada yada yada--how do you explain the fact that everyliving thing on the planet contains DNA--and 90% of the DNA in an species is the same as in any other. If this doesn't tell you that all life had a common ancestor........ As for the biologist-me thinks he took the job to be fired and raise a stink. In essence this is no different than an atheist taking a job as a youth pastor, teaching evolution to his youth--and being fired. I'd agree with his firing also, he wasn't doing the job he was paid to do.

2007-12-10 08:49:44 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 6 0

It is fine for the biologist to believe God created the world and set in motion the laws that govern it's physicality. It's not OK for him to use this as a justification to ignore scientific evidence. If he wants to have science without scientific evidence, he's a rather odd biologist. And as always, just because you don't understand something doesn't justify attributing it to a supernatural being. We used to attribute lightning to angry gods, but we know better now.

2007-12-10 08:49:41 · answer #9 · answered by mommanuke 7 · 5 0

Well first - to be a scientist you have to be very open minded, even to the point that the jury is still out on the existence of deity. Scientists - to believe anything - need proof that can be tested, measured, and recorded. And the tests that prove something need to be able to be reproduced exactly with the same results.

So when you can prove God, scientifically, and can show everyone unrefutable evidence - then you can say a Christian can be a scientist. Until then...

2007-12-10 08:49:20 · answer #10 · answered by swordarkeereon 6 · 4 0

Complexity does not imply design. You've been fed a false analogy with numerous counterexamples. Snowflakes are complex, and we understand that natural processes can form complex snowflakes without requiring a designer.

The fact that people have different fingerprints is more the result of the trillions of ways that lines on a finger can be arranged and less the result of design.

2007-12-10 08:50:08 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 7 0

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