Homosexuality in religion?

Question

everything today is glamourised with sex etc. Comercials, sports events, cars etc.
The Romans were the same - they glamourised homosexuality towards the end of their domination. Homosexuality is also becoming popular here.
Your opinion - do you think homosexuality is a curse? as none of the abrahamic faiths accept it apart from christianity.

Judaism and Islam - which i have limited knowledge about forbid it completely as i have learnt.

Im not being homophobic but just want to know what people think

Answer 1

Judaism

The Torah is the primary source for Jewish views on homosexuality. It states that: "[A man] shall not lie with another man as [he would] with a woman, it is a to'eva" (Leviticus 18:22).

The term to'eva is usually translated as "abomination". However, because the word is used twice in regards to homosexuality, its second use has been understood by the Talmud to be a contraction of the words to'eh hu va, meaning "He is deviating from what is natural." (literally "He is wandering with it [from the natural way of the world]" since the Hebrew word to'e means "He is wandering", va "with it")

According to the rabbis, the prohibition is a part of the Noachide Laws, and thus applies to Gentiles as well as Jews. In both, very little is said about female homosexuality (known as mesoleloth). {1}

Homosexuality and Orthodox Judaism
Sexual intercourse between two men is forbidden by the Torah, as stated above, and is a capital offense. The Torah prohibition of Lo tikrevu legalot ervah ("You shall not come close to another person for the purpose of committing a sexual crime") forbids all other sexual acts which can lead to intercourse, and prescribes the punishment of lashes.

Homosexual acts between women (lesbianism) were forbidden by the rabbis on the basis of "Do not follow the ways of Egypt where you once lived, nor of Canaan, where I will be bringing you. Do not follow [any] of their customs." (Leviticus 18:3). The oral law (Sifra there, 8:8) explains that what is meant is sexual customs and that one of those was the marriage of women to each other, as well as a man to a woman and her daughter. The Talmud follows this view, forbidding lesbianism. Like all Rabbinical prohibitions, violation can incur lashes. Female homosexuality is regarded as less serious than male homosexuality.

Christanity

The Bible is the Christian sacred text, regarded as the ultimate authority by all denominations. It consists of the Old Testament (roughly equivalent to the Jewish Tanakh) and the New Testament. While the New Testament is the specifically Christian part of the Bible, both parts are regarded as equally authoritative. The following passages are those that are generally considered relavent to the Christian discussion of homosexuality, quoted from the NIV translation in the order they appear in the Bible.

God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground. (Genesis 1:28)

The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. "My lords," he said, "please turn aside to your servant's house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning." ... Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." .... They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door. But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house and shut the door. ... The two men said to Lot, "Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it." ... By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens. (Genesis 19)

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders. (1 Corinthians 6:9)

We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine. (1 Timothy 1:9-10)

In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. (Jude 7)


Islam

"We also sent Lut: He said to his people: Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds. And his people gave no answer but this: they said, "Drive them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!"" (Qur'an 7:80-82)

"Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing (all limits)! They said: "If thou desist not, O Lut! thou wilt assuredly be cast out!" He said: "I do detest your doings:" "O my Lord! deliver me and my family from such things as they do!" So We delivered him and his family,- all Except an old woman who lingered behind. But the rest We destroyed utterly. We rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished (but heeded not)! Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe. And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful." (Qur'an 26:165-175)

"Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant! But his people gave no other answer but this: They said, "Drive out the followers of Lut from your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!" But We saved him and his family, except his wife; her We destined to be of those who lagged behind. And We rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished (but heeded not)!" (Qur'an 27:55-58)

"And (remember) Lut: behold, he said to his people: "Ye do commit lewdness, such as no people in Creation (ever) committed before you. Do ye indeed approach men, and cut off the highway? - and practise wickedness (even) in your councils?" But his people gave no answer but this: they said: "Bring us the Wrath of Allah if thou tellest the truth." (Qur'an 29:28-29)

"If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way. If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful." (Qur'an 4:15-16)

While there is a consensus that same-sex intercourse is in violation of Islamic law, there are differences of opinion within Islamic scholarship about punishment, reformation, and what standards of proof are required before physical punishment becomes lawful.

In Sunni Islam there are eight madhhabs, or legal schools, of which only four still exist: Hanafi, Shafi'i, Hanbali, Maliki. The main Shia school is called Ja'fari, but there are Zaidi and Ismai'ili also. More recently, some groups have rejected this tradition in favor of greater ijtihad, or individual interpretation. Of these schools, according to Michael Mumisa of the Birmingham-based Al Mahdi institute:

The Hanafi school does not consider same-sex intercourse to constitute adultery, and therefore leaves punishment up to the judge's discretion. Most early scholars of this school specifically ruled out the death penalty, others allow it for a second offence.
Imam Shafi'i considers same-sex intercourse as analogous to other zina; thus, a married person found to have done so is punished as an adulterer (by stoning to death), and an unmarried one, as a fornicator, is left to be flogged.
The Maliki school says that anyone (married or unmarried) found to have committed same-sex intercourse should be punished as an adulterer.
Within the Ja'fari schools, Sayyid al-Khoi says that anyone (married or unmarried) found to have committed same-sex intercourse should be punished as an adulterer.
It should also be noted that the punishment for adultery requires four witnesses; by analogy, all schools, require four witnesses to the physical act of penetration for the punishment to be applied.But if otherwise any other proof is found through modern methods such as DNA testing or so the punishment can be implimented.

According to the modern Islamic scholar Yusuf al-Qaradawi's summary:

"The jurists of Islam have held different opinions concerning the punishment for this abominable practice. Should it be the same as the punishment for zina, or should both the active and passive participants be put to death? While such punishments may seem cruel, they have been suggested to maintain the purity of the Islamic society and to keep it clean of perverted elements." [2]


There you are a complete view of homosexuality in the three major religions.

Answer 2

I am not clear what you are trying to get at. Homosexuality is a natural condition that affects a proportion of the population. It can't become "popular" because if you are homosexual you are it is not a choice thing. Whether a religion accepts it or forbids it may worry some homosexuals and may not worry others but it will not make a scrap of difference to the number of people who are homosexual

Answer 3

homosexuality is a natural human phenomena...albeit an imbalance of our biological structure.It is not something that is easily controlled,but in more unforgiving times.it had to be.
Religion is a credo laid down by various prophets,and accepted by followers.Where "religion" goes "wrong",is when the leaders of the various religions take it upon themselves to interpret the written words..in many cases,to suit their own purposes.The original message and teachings of those various prophets seem to have been clouded thru the centuries by these leaders of the various faiths.
A person who worships,and who mean no harm to others, is a good person.That person will be tolerant and respectful of other faiths and creeds,that person may be male,or female,adult or minor,that person may somebody of "confused sexuality"....but they will still be good people,who would command and deserve respect.Do any of the holy scriptures in whatever faiths,actually and catergorically declare that homosexuals are to be excluded from worshiping? I the christian faith,Sodom and Gommorragh were destroyed because of their debauched way of life.Both hetro and homosexuals took part in debauchery against the human race in very many different ways and forms.The cities were not destroyed"just because they poof palaces" or whatever.
As for homosexuality being a curse,well if it is,then it would seem that the hetros are the ones that would consider it to be,and not the actual people that they are vilifying.After all,if one finds hope and happiness with someone else,of whatever sex,then WHY is it a curse.Does that mean that all hetrosexual happy marriages are equally cursed?
By the way I am "straight" and happily married for many many years now.

Answer 4

do not confused the Romans with the Greeks and the Greeks didnt glamorized because they didnt see it as homosexuality, they saw it is being with an equal [because women were inferior]. the Romans were a nation/nationality not a religion. Christianity doesnt promote Homosexuality and yes Jusaism and Islam are agianst it...I dont think it's a curse nor do someone choose to be gay, I think you are born that way...and God DOESNT make mistakes, that should tell you something.... and it's not a question that it's becoming popular, people jsut feel more comfortable coming out of the closet...it's a biological trait not a trend

Answer 5

Allah the most high killed the people of lut AKA lot because of men having sex with men the is a dirty act which is not allowed in Islam the prophet may peace and blessing be upon him his family and all the servants of Allah Ameen, forbade this crime against nature we have to obey Allah's messenger the proof is in surah al-hashr 59:7 there is no innovation in Islam. this deen is perfect and something thats perfect you do add to it or take it away from it the proof is the saying of Allah "this day i have perfected ur religion and completed my favor upon you and i am pleased with Islam as ur religion." surah al-ma'idah 5:3 you can't add homo's to the deen or anything eles for that matter and if you do you are rejecting the quran which is Allah's words belonging to him alone.

Answer 6

There are two references in the New Testament, I suggest that anyone interested should read them:

1 Corinthians 6:9
and
1 Timothy 1:10

In my English Standard Version of the Bible it is very direct.

Answer 7

Yes- its a curse-see Romans 1
There is no such thing as "Abrahamic" faiths. There is Judaism-period-nothing else. Islam is a false religion started by Mohammad and has nothing to do with Abraham.

Answer 8

Fact: Rome didn't collapse until it made Christianity its national religion and near the end Romans persecuted homosexuals.



Something for you "Christian nation" zealots to think about. And I think homosexuality is a fact of life just like it is every where in the world. It's just less hidden here. Unlike other barbaric nations, we don't execute people for being who they are.

Answer 9

Homosexuality is not a choice, regardless if it is a trait, a genetic disorder, a hormonal imbalance, or a mental desease.
Try plugging Blond hair, Tah Sacs, or Bipoloar in where you say homosexuality.

Answer 10

Homosexuality wasn't glamorized near the end any more than it was in the beginning of the Empire. Homosexuality was a fact of court life. In fact, after Rome became Christian, there was a sharp DECREASE in the practice. Only after Homosexuality left the court and the aristocracy did Rome fall. Take from that what you will...

Answer 11

Frankly I don't see why gays want acceptance by the Christian church because the Bible doesn't accept it. On the other hand the Bible seems not to shun lesbians.



What about Caligula (?) guys?


"God doesn't make mistakes!!!!!!!" Whoooweee! Just another proof there is no God. No one is in charge. Our evolved instinct for survival is to help one and other. With so many sociopaths about one would think we're devolving.