Why there is a lot of talk on the rapture and the Trinity? pre trib and post trib I have a new one pan trib! how ever it pans out ha ha!!!! well what do you think of these qestions? I would like to know>...............
2007-12-10 05:32:50 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The Catholic Church has introduced these to church world.
Denominations have allow her teaching into their churches.
Revelation 2:20
Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
2007-12-10 05:47:07 · answer #1 · answered by Old Hickory 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The idea of "the rapture" was invented by John Nelson Darby a couple hundred years ago.
The Trinity goes back a long way to the early councils of the 4th-6th centuries when the Church was trying to determine how Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit are related to one another.
What do I think? I think the Rapture theology is awful but popular because it looks like justice - we get what we deserve and everyone else gst destroyed. Makes the sacrifice of Christianity into purchasing fire insurance and ignores the genre of the Jewish apocalypse. Revelation is most likely an allegory about the Roman Empire. (See Eugene Boring's book Revelation.)
The Trinity is important to the extent that it maintains the sensation that God is one and ineffible but has various aspects which can be conceived of as separate. It allows for a psychological pantheon within a montheistic religion, adjusts monotheism to the realities of the psyche. Ultimately I doubt whether God cares what we think of his essence and divisibility. An omnipotent God can be as many or as few as he wants, if it can be called a he or counted (which it can't in either case).
2007-12-10 05:42:04 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
No but the concepts are there. The term "trinity" didn't come into use for several years after the Apostles. The North African theologian, Tertullian, was the first to use this term if I remember my church history notes! But that didn't mean there wasn't a trinity: the early believers knew that Jesus was the Son of God, they also knew of the Father (the model prayer in Matthew 6 and Luke 6, and even Jesus' references to the Father), and the Holy Spirit. How much they knew of the linkage or connections between the Three Members, we'll never know, but the trinity was no less real.
I don't know who first used the term "rapture" before Hal Lindsey's books began to be popular in the 1970's. Again, comparing the Scriptures, especially the New Testament, tells us there are two phases of Christ's second coming. I believe the first will be before the tribulation, the second to be afterwards. But regardless, we as believers know that JESUS WINS when it's all over!
2007-12-10 05:44:17 · answer #3 · answered by Brother Jonathan 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The word "rapture" does not appear in the Bible. It is a Latin word. The actual Greek is "Harpatzo" which means to be "snatched away" as a pick-pocket would do to a wallet. Jesus said that He would come as "a thief in the night", and this word reflects that.
ref. Isaiah 26:19,1 Thessalonians 4:13-15, 1 Corinthians 15:51-53
Yes, you will not find the word trinity in the Bible either. In fact, you will not even find the word "Bible" in the Bible. But that is not an issue. It is a word that abbreviates a concept. That concept being that God, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct personalities within a single Godhead.
As to what I think of the questions... it is merely a distraction to ignore the real issue--your decision regarding the gospel and eternal salvation.
2007-12-10 05:37:03 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
The word rapture is not in the Holy Scriptures, however, there is a verse that refers to the catching away of the saints and a meeting in the air with our Lord. The word "trinity" is also not in the Holy Scriptures but rather "the Lord our God is One Lord" and He is referred to in the Scripture as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. There are 3 separate persona's in One Holy Godhead. I agree with you in the new one pan trib. It will happen and as long as we know Christ and are living for Him, we have nothing to worry about. God bless you and keep watch with your eyes upon the eastern sky. Merry Christmas.
2007-12-10 06:11:22 · answer #5 · answered by loveChrist 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Neither are specifically mentioned in scripture. These are examples of logical doctrinal positions based upon scripture.
As far as the rapture is concerned, I do not believe it is a true doctrine, but it is based upon various views of eschatology. It came about around the middle of the 19th century as a doctrine.
The Trinity is the explanation for how God is both one, and yet eternally revealed in 3 persons. It was originally coined by Tertullian (Quintus Septimius Florens Tertullianus) in the 3rd century predominately dealing with heretical doctrines of either Christ not being human or not being God. This is a true and validated doctrine taken from all over scripture.
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2007-12-10 05:45:48 · answer #6 · answered by athanasius was right 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, neither of those are in the bible. The trinity concept has rather poor support in the bible. The rapture concept is purely non-biblical and is only so popular due to the fact that christians tend to be extremely ignorant in regards to their own scriptures.
2007-12-10 05:49:28 · answer #7 · answered by Azure Z 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There are no any mention of the word rapture or trinity in the Bible and if it is not written, we must not believe it.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
2007-12-10 05:58:23 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
No to either one. You are also not the first to coin the term, "pan-tribulation". That is a theory that is already out there along with atribulation (no trib.)
2007-12-10 05:38:13 · answer #9 · answered by mlcros 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The words 'trinity' and 'rapture' do not appear in the Bible, but the concepts do. The words are used in reference to the topics taught within the pages of Scripture.
2007-12-10 05:39:43 · answer #10 · answered by mt75689 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Nope. But neither is the word Bible in the Bible. Rapture and trinity are terms given by men to Biblical concepts.
2007-12-10 05:36:22 · answer #11 · answered by Bible warrior 5 · 5⤊ 2⤋