If Word is God...?

Question

then why John 1:1 says "Word was with God". How can be WITH God if is part of it? God for trinitarians is Father, Son (Word), and Holy Spirit. Was Word with Himself?

Answer 1

>>You are right it is not possible , simply because Jesus ONLY declares himself to be the "SON OF GOD", never part of God as in a person, entity, personality,
>>>>Thus the Word was indeed with another distinct person, his God & Father!

--ALL WE HAVE in accurate translations(that are not paraphrased) are expressions by Jesus own words that he is not God BUT God's son!

THUS when you have the expression the Word was with God, ONE has to be with someone other than in himself OTHERWISE we are somewhere in the "outer limits" or twilight zone" as in the famous TV series!

UNLESS the trinitarians want to make Christ & God --a "Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde" monstrosity, which is indeed is what the trinity is!
>>Many in Christendom claim of Jehovah God as being the "mean", "hateful" God , because he had his angels kill evil people, as they say of his actions in the Hebrew Scriptures (OT)
>>>>WHERE AS similar to Dr. Jekyll , Jesus is the kind , benevolent god although he being the same person (very very strange)

TO ILLUSTRATE how the trintarians might try to explain the pagan trinity---when Jesus said to Mary Magdalene, because she was detaining Jesus, because of her exuberence of seein he was resurrected by God:

(John 20:17) “. . .Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’”. . .”

>>SO THEN at this very time who was Mary with according to the trinitarians--with Jesus ,God, or holy spirit?
#1 They could say with all of them, 1/3 God, 1/3 Christ & 1/3 holy spirit

#2 OR they could say with the second part of the trinity(Jesus), that was going to somehow be absorbed in the first part of the trinity(God) and then somehow join all together with the third part(holy spirit) of the trinity when Jesus would leave Mary to go to heaven and all be one!
>>SIMILAR to the trinitarian math where 1+1+1=1

>>OR DID Mary truly believe she was with Jesus as the resurrected "son of God" and that Jesus looked forward to being "WITH GOD" once again?

>>DID SHE not say to the disciples:

(John 20:18) “18 Mary Mag′da·lene came and brought the news to the disciples: “I have seen the Lord!” and that he said these things to her.”

If we notice she said she saw the "Lord" not God, nor -- THE "LORD"--which when capitalized always represents God where as "Lord"--always SHOULD represent Christ or other majesties that take on that title!
>>THIS IS SO WHEN THE trinitarian translators try to be somewhat honest and show the clear distinction that was made in ancient manuscripts!

Answer 2

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all one God, the holy trinity, was always together as one, except when Jesus became flesh....
Yes Jesus was always in existence...the "word" in the book of John is talking about Jesus Christ...
In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.....substitute the "word" for "Jesus". That's who John was talking about.

Answer 3

Jesus is God in human flesh. He is not half God and half man. He is fully divine and fully man. That is, Jesus has two distinct natures: divine and human. Jesus is the Word who was God and was with God and was made flesh, (John 1:1,14). This means that in the single person of Jesus is both a human and divine nature. The divine nature was not changed. It was not altered. He is not merely a man who "had God within Him" nor is he a man who "manifested the God principle." He is God, second person of the Trinity. "The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word," (Heb. 1:3, NIV). Jesus' two natures are not "mixed together," nor are they combined into a new God-man nature. They are separate yet act as a unit in the one person of Jesus. This is called the Hypostatic Union.
The following chart should help you see the two natures of Jesus "in action":

GOD
He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33).
He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8)
He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1)
He is prayed to (Acts 7:59).
He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15).
He knows all things (John 21:17).
He gives eternal life (John 10:28).
All the fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9).

MAN
He worshiped the Father (John 17).
He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5).
He was called Son of Man (John 9:35-37)
He was tempted (Matt. 4:1).
He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52)
He died (Rom. 5:8)
He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39).

A doctrine that is related to the Hypostatic Union is the communicatio idiomatum (Latin for "communication of properties"). It is the teaching that the attributes of both the divine and human natures are ascribed to the one person of Jesus. This means that the man Jesus could lay claim to the glory He had with the Father before the world was made (John 17:5), claim that He descended from heaven, (John 3:13), and also claim omnipresence, (Matt. 28:20). All of these are divine qualities that are laid claim to by Jesus; therefore, the attributes of the divine properties were claimed by the person of Jesus.
One of the most common errors that non-Christian cults make is not understanding the two natures of Christ. For example, the Jehovah's Witnesses focus on Jesus' humanity and ignore His divinity. They repeatedly quote verses dealing with Jesus as a man and try and set them against scripture showing that Jesus is also divine. On the other hand, the Christian Scientists do the reverse. They focus on the scriptures showing Jesus' divinity to the extent of denying His true humanity.
For a proper understanding of Jesus and, therefore, all other doctrines that relate to Him, His two natures must be properly understood and defined. Jesus is one person with two natures. This is why He would grow in wisdom and stature (Luke 2:52) yet know all things (John 21:17). He is the Divine Word that became flesh (John 1:1,14).
The Bible is about Jesus (John 5:39). The prophets prophesied about Him (Acts 10:43). The Father bore witness of Him (John 5:37; 8:18). The Holy Spirit bore witness of Him (John 15:26). The works Jesus did bore witness of Him (John 5:36; 10:25). The multitudes bore witness of Him (John 12:17). And, Jesus bore witness of Himself (John 14:6; 18:6).
Other verses to consider when examining His deity are John 10:30-33; 20:28; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8; Heb. 1:6-8; and 2 Pet. 1:1.
1 Tim. 2:5 says, "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Right now, there is a man in heaven on the throne of God. He is our advocate with the Father (1 John 2:1). He is our Savior (Titus 2:13). He is our Lord (Rom. 10:9-10). He is Jesus.

Answer 4

Word.

Answer 5

this might take extra advantageous than yahoo for me to describe. i'm going to start with the undeniable fact that the place it says be conscious it is going to truthfully say plan. it incredibly is the Greek be conscious emblems meaning "some thing reported which comprise the ideas" by way of implication "a topic remember or subject of discourse" additionally "reasoning with the psychological faculties and reason" it is translated from the Hebrew be conscious dabar meaning the revealed will of YHWH, the plan and purpose for mankind. This in accordance to Thayers Lexicon and The Interpreters Dictionary of The Bible. acceptable names lined it would be interior the e book of Yahchanan ben Zabdyah (those names truthfully have meaning in contrast to john) financial ruin one million verses one million-4 interior the beggining became the plan of Yahweh, and the plan became with Yahweh, and the plan became Yahweh's. a similar became interior the beggining with Yahweh. All issues have been completed in accordance to it and devoid of it no longer something became completed that became completed. in this plan became existence and that existence became the mild to mankind. additionally, genuine positioned verse 14 says "in accordance to this plan flesh became created; and residing between us, and we beholding his glory the difference of the begotten son of the only Father, full of honor and fact. edit: the place Terry says Collossians one million:sixteen the be conscious by way of is truthfully to declare "as subsequently of him" As to his rant approximately Revelations 3:14, definite it says first. What he did no longer inform you is that many sources say that the be conscious perfected is disregarded. So it genuine says ..."the 1st perfected of Yahweh.", meaning he became the 1st guy to be suited, no longer he wass there interior the beggining with Yahweh and His plan.

Answer 6

the writing gave a past..and present and future.
here a thought.
as you see my writing..is that me too??
YES.
JESUS is the WORD OF GOD>
GOD WHO IS LOVE SPOKe(jesus.the word) and the power(holy spirit) bring about the change...

Answer 7

How can something that is so self explanatory, be so confusing?

Answer 8

To me, it is self-explanatory.

He says exactly what He means.
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