Why are some Christians (and I say some) so determined to make things all about them?

Question

These recent shooting at the churches are perfect examples. It was an awful thing to happen but so where the mall shooting, school shootings and the execution of the Amish children. But for some reason, these TWO shootinings out of countless others means that America is out to get Chrisitans? I'm sorry but that attitude is selfish and beyond self centered which is sad for a religion that preaches acceptance and love. Why do some people do this?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Apvsb8xczRTkpB21hdQYAUXsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20071210073150AA7lHJc&show=7#profile-info-wsLciWlmaa is my inspiration. Only a few of the Christian answers (at last check) checked the behavior. The rest simply saw an opportunity to push agenda.

Thank you for proving my point unafraid. I love when you guys do that. No "I feel for those families" No "Those who died should be rememberd", no you take the chance to be paraniod about Christianity. Bravo

This isn't envy, it's disgust.

Answer 1

Some are truly convinced that Christianity is being persecuted in America. I mean, with having to recognize all of the other December holidays besides their own, and the Golden Compass coming out, how could they not feel persecuted?

EDIT: I read your answer to it. You're my favorite Asatru :-)

Answer 2

Hey Ultra - aren't I one of your favorite Asatru too? LOL

Seriously though, persecuted? No, when you have a controlling interest in a large majority of the world, that's not persecution. Unafraid - up for a challenge? How about reading the texts and religious beliefs of other religions or spreading some of that Christian "love" instead of propaganda and narrow thinking?

You don't see pagans and heathens protesting outside Christmas and Easter services at local churches. You don't see atheists demanding that religious shows be taken off the television and radio. You don't see heathens demanding that the President raise a drinking horn to our gods when he takes his oath of office.

Persecution is being fired from you job when others find out that you're not Christian/straight/or religious. Persecution is people attempting to blame tragedies like the church shootings on atheists/goths/gays/witches. Persecution is a nationally known fundamentalist goes on television and blames the attacks of 9/11 on witches and lesbians.

Go back to the teachings of your Christ and stop judging, start helping your fellow man, sinner or not.

Answer 3

I don't think you can call out Christians for this behavior as most people are self centered regardless of religion. Whatever the topic, when conversing with someone or asking questions here, people generally relate the topic to their own experiences and they do make it about them. Not saying this is best, just human nature.

It would be better to listen fully to what someone is saying with an open mind and without any predetermined judgment, but this is very, very difficult to do.

Answer 4

It was a terrible thing. They need to quit screaming persecution, and start trying to find the horrible person who did it and comfort the victims' families.

Their Bible tells them that they're hated. At the time the Bible was written, they were actually persecuted for their beliefs. What they fail to understand is that the Bible was written 2000+ years ago, and some of it is not applicable now, because now, they're NOT being persecuted anymore. The sooner they realize that, the sooner they'll get over the persecution complex that is indoctrinated into them by their pastors.

Answer 5

The desire to be "Special" by means of persecution. It's actually a very small group that does it, but they are the loudest and they own the Christian networks. Others believe those on tv simply because the speaker claims to be "Christian". (We need to remind these people that Jim Jones claimed to be Christian as well... so does Charles Manson). Just claiming to be Christian doesn't really matter to us Non-Christians. For all we know, the people in that mission and church could be horrible people and treat others like crap (they do claim to have turned the shooter out when he asked for a place to stay). We don't know those people... and I refuse to make a judgement based on the fact that those people call themselves "Christian".

I am not saying they deserved to be shot... but I'm not going to get upset like that just because they claim to be Christians. No more than I would upset if it were a group of Asatru - NOT without know what type of people they are FIRST. Those type of off-the-wall judgements make no sense whatsoever.

Answer 6

Because we are taught that we will be persecuted for our beliefs and to be prepared for it. Actually, many Christians also viewed the Amish children's murders as another example of this persecution.

What concerns me as a Christian are my brothers and sisters in other countries who are systematically being raped, imprisoned, tortured, and killed for their faith. That is true persecution. If there is a religious motive behind the Colorado shootings, that is true persecution also. But most American Christians need to understand that there's a difference between being persecuted and unpopular. IF there were ever large-scale persecution of Christians in the US, you would see a massive falling away of those who are only nominally Christian. It would be a purging and purifying of the church.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

For a long time, America was a "safe haven" the things that have been happening? These "never" happened here before...they always happened somewhere else..over there..and, was always expected in other countries of the world. Now? Things are getting and hitting "home" and we are receiving what is occuring in those other countries also...Nobody ever believed in their wildest dreams things of this nature would ever happen to "us". And, it's scaring a lot of folks.. "Peace!"

Answer 9

What I found upsetting was the governors comment:

"Violent crimes of any sort are tragic enough, but when innocent people are killed in a religious facility or a place of worship, we must voice a collective sense of outrage and demonstrate a renewed commitment to keeping our communities safe," said Gov. Bill Ritter.

I don't care what the dead believed. they are dead, and they shouldn't be. I don't think my outrage should be any greater because it happened in a church than it was when it happened in a school, a mall, or an office building.

Answer 10

I think it reflects more about maturity than faith when you take a tragedy and make it about yourself. I cannot imagine how frightening it would have been to have been involved in any of the incidents mentioned. The families of all of these shootings and the people lost should be the center of the issue.