Okay, maybe it's controversial but; proofs and disproofs of Christianity?

Question

I'm agnostic, makes no difference to me which way the discussion swings.

If anyone out there could offer any say....
Biblical prophecies that have come true?
Faults in the Bible?
etc.


Basically just any evidence that goes against/for the existence of God and the truth in Christianity.

That'd be great.
Thanks.

Answer 1

"Faults in the Bible" does not mean that Jesus wasn't the messiah.

But it is, sadly, the result of the fundamentalist idea that "everything in the Bible must be literal and true, or it's all a lie." Ridiculous.

God used men to write and compile the Bible. Sometimes very wise and holy men, but still human and subject to human error -- and that's not counting the cultural changes that have made some things true back then, untrue now: the necessity to stay away from eating pork comes to mind.

There is no evidence that goes for or against the existence of God in the Bible, and the Bible contains the truth of Christianity, but it should never be confused with that truth itself.

In other words, the Bible CONTAINS God's truth, but it isn't God's truth itself. That would be idol worship, worshipping a book instead of the God it points to, which is a sin I see many confused fundamentalists make over and over.

If you want proof or disproof of God's existence, there is only one place you can look: in your heart. Sorry if that sounds corny and "Hallmark," but that's it.

Answer 2

Ok. First, "The proof", as they say, "is in the pudding", or "The proof of the pudding is in the eating".

The fact that people's lives are transformed by believing the Bible makes a pretty sound argument in and of itself.

The power of God can make a bad person good, a wrong person right.

Go to any Teen Challenge center and talk to some of the people that have gone through the program.

Bible prophecies? Daniel described Alexander the Great, and the way his land would be divided between his four sons.

There are over 300 prophecies in the Old Testament that were fulfilled in Jesus, many of which he couldn't manipulate unless he were God and preexisted his own birth.

For instance, Daniel tells us WHEN Messiah (ie Jesus) would be born; Micah tells us WHERE; and Isaiah tells us HOW (of a virgin).

Like I said, there are over 300 prophecies, so I can't even begin to go into all of them, but they ARE there.

I trust that this abbreviated answer, though brief, is helpful. I could write an entire essay, or even a book in answer to this question, but others have done a much better job than me, so I will leave it at that.

Answer 3

Like you, the jury is still out! I do have the following deeply engraved into my thought process:

The bible was written by men for men to control men, however does contain useful teachings of morality and basically just being a good person. It also contains alot of exaggerated accounts of historical natural disasters. The bible is often used out of context and interpreted incorrectly.
The church was an almost successful attempt to be greater than the monarchies at the time.
A phenomenon does exist (some people call it god) that makes things the way they are.
The problem with the Christian religion is that often times it teaches people that they are not responsible for their actions and no matter what they do they will be forgiven in the end. It also teaches that sacrifice and misery are a good thing, when in fact those things are warning signs that you are not doing something right!

I have many more conclusions. The above is just my opinion.. no actual "proof" of anything just alot of indicators.

Answer 4

Others will no doubt point out the utter lack of evidence FOR a deity. There is none. Not a hint. Not the tiniest scintilla.

And then there's the mass of evidence against: like the fact that nothing we have found in the universe requires a deity in order for it to have come about. Everything seems quite susceptible to natural explanation, even the stuff we haven't nailed down yet. This is more than lack of evidence FOR - it's strong circumstantial evidence AGAINST.

Plus the strange fact that none of the proposed deities seem to work as advertised: crap falleth upon the just and unjust in equal measure; bad guys win; innocents drown.

And the odd characteristics of these deities, which seem inappropriate for a universe-creator: he wants worship. From us jumped-up apes. He likes the smell of sacrifices (or used to - perhaps there are so many wars now that the stench of burning flesh has become tiresome).

All in all, it seems that Gods behave just like a hypertrophied version of a human Alpha Male, dictator or evil despot: a rotten, evil, murderous swine who uses terror to get whatever he wants.

CD

Answer 5

If this question matters to you there are very good books written on this topic.

New Evidence that Demands a Verdict, Josh McDowell

The Case for Christianity, Lee Strobel

They do an excellent job and will cover things in detail. Both began their search as atheists and ended as believers in Christ.

I'm sure there are books written by Atheists for their side, I just don't know any. I've been a happy believer since I was 18 and so I never had to debate the issue. I was raised in an irreligious home and then met Jesus Christ at a point of crisis in my life and have never wanted to be anything different in the 37 years since then.

I hope you find your answers!!! =)

Answer 6

Proof:
The Bible

Disproof:
The Bible

It depends on your view point. If the Bible is Gods words then God has the emotion of a human (not a God), the ramblings of a child (not a God) and the love of a really sick sociopath.

If God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent then how could a woman get raped? He either isn't there, isn't able to help or just doesn't give a sh*t.

It makes more sense that the Bible was written by people trying to spread their belief... not because God told them to write it.

Answer 7

Christianity is a faith and faiths cannot be proved or disapproved. The process of checking the validity of a faith is different from the process of checking the validity of, for instance, a scientific theory although neither can be proved like a mathematical theorem.

Faith means two things - it is about what you believe AND how you show that belief in you life style. The logical conclusion from this is that you should look at the lifestyle of people you admire and then discuss their faith with them. That is the way to decide whether a faith is right for you.

But as a Christian, I believe that the Christian faith is right for people and pray that God can use my life to attract people to it.

Answer 8

Biblical prophecies that have come true. All of them, but the most astounding was Israel made a nation again in one day, all speaking their old language Hebrew and in 1948 and before they all started returning to Israel as God said He would bring them back.

I find no faults in the Bible.

I believe God and I take God at His Word. It is called Faith in my Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. I have the Holy Spirit within me and I know Jesus. What others think does not matter to me. What is important is that I know Jesus. He is the Creator and the One and only True God. He is returning soon and are you ready to meet your Creator?

Answer 9

Hello, KatyKat:

You would not even call me an agnostic before because I could not see any tangible evidence that God existed.

So I searched for myself ("Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness, for they shall be filled), and He revealed Himself to me--the truths made me wonder why preachers or my contemporaries never knew such things

Start with His word--Jesus fulfilled over 300 prophecies in the O.T. of His coming.

Then He hid a Bible code until the last days that proves Him as the Messiah, and much much more. See http://abiblecode.tripod.com

And let me ask you one more thing. If you knew He existed, would you serve and trust Him unflinchingly? Or would you be afraid of being called a "Jesus Freak?" If you can not make that total commitment, then your religions is YOURS, and your faith is in vain.

If you read that publication and have any unanswered questions, please feel free to e-mail me.

Shalom, peace in Jesus, Ben Yeshua

Answer 10

Some very basic prophecies, that they don't need interpretation are the fall of Babylon from the King Cyrus, the death of King Alexander and the kingship for four of his generals. And for our days the worldwide preaching from the true Christians. And many many more