2007-12-09 23:15:46 · 13 answers · asked by m12082003 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
They said he is God, he is the son of his father, and he is the father to his son and also he is the holy spirit. dose it make sense? be fare to Ur selves. If It is one being, the question is who was killed on the Cross. Just say 'God'. Could U believe then God can be killed by Man? If yes then U are Insane.
2007-12-10 04:10:43 · answer #1 · answered by bafodiye 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Question:
If Jesus is God, and God is One, Who was killed on the Cross and who raised him up?
My answer:
The One who died on the Cross is the human Jesus, the Messiah. He died to save us from our sins through a torturous death. God did not die, only the human flesh died on the Cross but not the Son's spirit. He was also raised from the dead on the third day, with the Son's spirit and ascended into Heaven with a much more glorified body. The Son did say to John in Revelation 1:17 'I am the First and Last'. You will also notice in the following verse He said 'I died and behold I live forever more'. This statement is true, for there is no other way to prove the First and Last died and then lived except through what we call the 'Hypostatic Union'. This means He is One personality (one person) who is with two different natures, one is human and the other is divine. The First and Last is the divine nature and when He died and lived, this is His human nature. There is no other cult or religion in the world who can successfully explain how the First and Last died and lived, or how He prayed and worshipped the Father, or called the Father 'My God'. Some cults will argue that that we are making Jesus into a multiple personality disorder (schizophrenia, split personality, etc...). I would say to these people there is not one single person in this world with a mental disease who has the hypostatic union, NOT ONE! Only Jesus is the One with the hypostatic union, no one else will come close to that description. The Bible says God raised Him up on the third day, and also the Bible says Jesus raised Himself up on the third day. John 2:19... 19Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days." So only through logic can we say...God raised Jesus...Jesus raised Jesus...Jesus is God.
2007-12-10 01:42:40 · answer #2 · answered by Thinkpad User 4 · 2⤊ 4⤋
The problem with trying to understand the concept of the Trinity (Three-in-One God) is that we are human and think about things as finite, while God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and infinite.
Jesus the Son is the manifestation of God in the flesh. 100% God & 100% Man, He was born as a baby to the Virgin Mary through the Conception of the Holy Spirit (the 3rd aspect of God or figure of the Trinity) and lived a perfect sinless life in human form. But His crucifixion was necessary in order for Him to bear the sins of mankind and be the ultimate sacrifice to redeem us. When Jesus was on the cross, He was briefly separated from God the Father when He bore this sin in His body. This was the time when he cried "My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?" (Notice that every other time He refers to God He calls Him "Father"). After He died, it is believed by many Christian faiths that He descended to Sheol, the Old Testament place of the dead, and gathered all those who had lived and died trusting in God and looking forward to the Messiah to come. This would include Old Testament heroes of the faith like Noah, Moses, David, the prophets, etc. He had the power to conquer Death and Hell, and rose up under His own power on the 3rd day fulfilling the Scriptures, and to appear again to His followers that they might believe.
I do NOT believe that a person must totally comprehend the resurrection of Christ or the intricacies of the Trinity in order to accept it by faith and believe in Him as Savior. After taking that step of faith, that 3rd Person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit, will indwell the believer and guide him/her into more and more truth through prayer, Bible study, and fellowship with other strong Christians.
2007-12-09 23:32:14 · answer #3 · answered by arklatexrat 6 · 4⤊ 2⤋
Jesus hung on the cross and God raised Him up....they are a trinity, yet still one...kinda like a flower has a lot of petals, yet its still ONE flower, just many parts to it...same with God..one God with three parts to Him...
2007-12-10 01:00:58 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
Jesus is God. God is Eternal. God is Father, Son & Holy Spirit in one being; three seperate, equal but distinct 'persons' yet, ONE God.
Jesus the Son was crucified. He was seperated from the Father (i.e, the 'My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?" comment while on the cross). [and the Spirit.]
The Father and the Spirit raised the Son; (but technically i'm guessing that He raised himself also, as well, He's God. lol.)
Jesus was both God and Man. The God part didnt die (as God cannot die); the man part did. So, (as per the resurrection) essentially, the Son died; the Father (willed it) or spoke, and the Spirit raised him; Yet, because He's God, He did, but it was like all three working together LOL.
Figure it like this:
YOU are One person.
You have a mind, a body and a spirit (soul). Each of those three things function individually, but together as as a whole.
Though you are essentially made of these three things, you are not three people, you are one being.
So as it would be with God. (the 'God-head' or persons of the Trinity). God the Father would be like the Mind of God; God the Son would be like the Body of God; and God the Holy Spirit would be like the Spirit (or Soul) of God; (i.e, 3 in 1) This is what it means in scripture that we are made in the image of God. (in addition to us being created with free-will; and self-cognisance,and with an eternal soul and etc). So that's the best i can describe the essence of God.
here this may help:
Q: God cannot die. Jesus died. Therefore, Jesus cannot be God.
One of the doctrines that many people fail to understand concerning Jesus is the doctrine of the hypostatic union. This is in the teaching that Jesus has two natures: God and man. In other words, Jesus is both God and man at the same time. This is why we see some scriptures that point to Him being divine and others pointing to Him being a man. Below is a chart illustrating the two natures of Jesus as derived from scripture.
Jesus is one person:
GOD
He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33; 28:9)
He is prayed to (Acts 7:59; 1 Cor. 1:1-2)
He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8)
He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1)
He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15)
He knew all things (John 21:17)
He gives eternal life (John 20:28)
The fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9)
MAN
He worshiped the Father (John 17)
He prayed to the Father (John 17:1)
He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5).
He was called Son of Man (John 9:35-37)
He was tempted (Matt. 4:1)
He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52)
He died (Rom. 5:8)
He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39)
This is not a made-up doctrine. Rather, it is a doctrine derived from observing God's word. It is true that God cannot die. It is also true that man can die. But we see that Jesus has two natures, not one. It was the human part of Jesus that died on the cross, not the divine. But, because He is both God and man in one person, and because He was sinless, His sacrifice is sufficient to cover the sins of the world.
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2007-12-10 00:12:59 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 4⤋
This will blow your mind - Father and Son And the Holy Spirit are 3 persons one entity . 3 into 1 . Just like i am a Son(to my folks) a Brother(to my siblings) and a Husband( to my Wife Duh) i am like the trinity in the fact I have 3 identities but am 1 person . It may be hard to grasp but think about and it is true .
It is not Flawed logic just a hard thing to get like Gravity .
2007-12-09 23:40:34 · answer #6 · answered by sergei 2 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Do you read novels? Any kind of books at all? If so pick up a bible and read it, I am not saying you need to believe it to do this, you just need to read it so you can understand. If you wanted to learn how to understand any subject you would get a book....so just read the Bible and you won't have to ask these questions.
2007-12-09 23:32:02 · answer #7 · answered by ridder 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotted son, to die on a cross"
The father, the son and the Holy spirit. They are one. God gave his son to die on a cross for our sins. He raised his son.
I know that is is very confusing for someone on the outside looking in, but if you look into it deeper and read the scripture, I promise that it will start to make sense.
2007-12-09 23:23:38 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
Jesus is the 'I AM' in each of us.
“If any man would come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.” He was telling us that if we wished to find the Kingdom we should deny that which seeks personal praise and gratification and become willing channels through which God can bring more and more of
the Divine Spirit into visibility.
Those who wish to enter the Kingdom of Heaven are to Raise up Jesus (the I AM) - "The Kingdom of Heaven is within YOU".
Ro 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
We are immortal Spirit, self perpetuating, self-renewing. When we raise up Jesus by overcoming our selfish ego, we open the mind to receive the power of the Et-ernal Spirit and death is swallowed up in victory.
The complete story of the life of Jesus is a series of parables within parables written in such a way that the Spiritual consciousness in us can understand it, while the carnal can not.
The reward of cultivating Spiritual consciousness and overcoming the obstacles and ignorance created by the selfish ego, is everlasting life.
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Those that say this is difficult to understand are still slaves of their own carnal mind, their own ego, 'satan' and therefore cannot offer the clarity that is self evident to those in the Spirit. When they admit of their own shortcomings and work to overcome them, they shall share in the eternal glory reserved for all of us from the foundatio of the world.
2007-12-09 23:53:58 · answer #9 · answered by the_metaphysician2001 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋
excellent question, also consider this: if Jesus is God, why did he need someone to save him at Hebrews 5:&?
It just doesn't add up.
2007-12-09 23:29:42 · answer #10 · answered by jojannequeen 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋