the sun will start making its way back to the northern hemisphere after winter solstice? Did you know that if you get up early that morning before the sun rises, and look to the east you'll see the constellation Virgo rise up before the sun does, and give birth to the Sun? Did you know that in 274 of our current age of Pisces or what you Christians call After Jesus.. the Romans dedicated that day to their Sun God Sol Invictus? Do you realize the implications in all of this?
2007-12-09 19:51:52 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Mahal, that's December 21st, and then the sun rises in the same place for 3 days afterwards, then on Dec. 25th it begins its way north again. So they said it was Reborn... just like your fictional god Jesus Christ. This story has been the basis for countless religions around the world, it's nothing but a story of the sun and the stars.
2007-12-09 19:56:18 · update #1
Morganie, they didn't create Christmas to appease the pagans. In 325 the Roman Emperor Constantine gathered all of the big pagan priests together to create your religion. Your religion is based off of these "pagan" religions that came before it. They all got together, and made a god up. Hesus Crishna. J wasn't even a letter in the alphabet then.
2007-12-09 19:59:01 · update #2
Do you realize the implications in all of this?
Absolutely- I get gifts!!!
I adore gifts.
2007-12-09 19:56:48 · answer #1 · answered by Pangloss (Ancora Imparo) AFA 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
The Winter Solstice, also known as Midwinter, occurs around December 21 or 22 each year in the Northern hemisphere, and June 20 or 21 in the Southern Hemisphere. It occurs on the shortest day or longest night of the year, sometimes said to mark the beginning of a hemisphere's astronomical winter. The word solstice derives from Latin, Winter Solstice meaning Sun set still in winter.
Sol Invictus ("the undefeated Sun") or, more fully, Deus Sol Invictus ("the undefeated sun god") was a religious title applied to at least three distinct divinities during the later Roman Empire; El Gabal, Mithras, and Sol. A festival of the birth of the Unconquered Sun (or Dies Natalis Solis Invicti) was celebrated when the duration of daylight first begins to increase after the winter solstice, — the "rebirth" of the sun. The Sol Invictus festival ran from December 22 through December 25, which at that time was at the solstice.
According to St. Chrysostom, Bishop of Constantinople, the "Roman Church purposefully placed the keeping of Christmas between two popular folk festivals, Saturnalia and the Kalends of January, in order to give Christians something to celebrate [undisturbed] about while others were engaged in secular merrymaking." The December 25th date for the Roman Christian celebration was generally accepted in Western Roman Empire probably some time before A.D. 336 when parts of the Philoclian calendar were composed, but certainly before A.D. 354 when the text was completed and the act officially recognized by Bishop Liberius.
The implications are really nothing. Just that Christians wanted to celebrate and remember Christ's birth.
2007-12-09 20:32:49 · answer #2 · answered by Someone who cares 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
That was the intention.
December 25 was also considered to be the date of the winter solstice, which the Romans called bruma. It was therefore the day the Sun proved itself to be "unconquered" despite the shortening of daylight hours. The Sol Invictus festival has a "strong claim on the responsibility" for the date of Christmas, according to the Catholic Encyclopedia. Several early Christian writers connected the rebirth of the sun to the birth of Jesus (sun/Son).
2007-12-09 19:59:44 · answer #3 · answered by no one you know 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The Christian practices that were adopted under Paul included the following: the Roman sun-day as the Christian Sabbath; the traditional birthday of the Sun-god as the birthday of Jesus; the emblem of the sun-god (the cross of light) to be the emblem of Christians; and, the incorporation of all the ceremonies which were performed at the Sun-god’s birthday celebrations. Some of the days of the week are called after Norse Gods.
Sunday – Sun Day (sun god), Monday – Moon Day (moon god), Wednesday - Wodin (or Odin),
Thursday – Thor, Friday - Friea
2007-12-09 20:06:18 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
What I find even more interesting is the story of Mithra, the ancient Persian Sun God. His birth was celebrated on December 25 also. Plus, his story is almost exactly the same as the story of Jesus. Leads one to wonder if the early Christians committed a few acts of plagiarism.
2007-12-09 19:59:18 · answer #5 · answered by Harry 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Old news, this subject has been brought up many times on this site.
Try reading some of the older questions.
We all know that Jesus wasn't really born on Dec. 25. It was more like spring.
and I also agree that Mahal is slow of learning.
2007-12-09 19:56:21 · answer #6 · answered by endavis02 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
The summer solstice is December 22 in Australia, not 25th. So bang goes your theory. This corresponds to the winter solstice of December 21 in Europe/USA.
2007-12-09 20:00:41 · answer #7 · answered by dweebken 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Wanna really have some fun? Look up december 25th for Pagans. Just one of MANY similarities. Almost makes it too darn easy to switch religions if you are a meek lil Roman running around...
2007-12-09 19:57:38 · answer #8 · answered by Green Eyes 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Yes, I got your point. Advance Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
May the message of Christmas gives meaning to your everyday life.
2007-12-09 20:07:22 · answer #9 · answered by Dencel 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I realize that the Catholic church thought it would be good marketing to hijack a pagan celebration in an attempt to blot out the non-Christian roots and replace it with something Christian.
This does not negate the fact that the creator of the universe was born as a human being - albeit not on December 25th, but in late September/early October. During what the Jews would consider the feast of Tabernacles, a celebration of the fact that God chose to dwell among his people Israel in a tabernacle tent.
Jesus's birthday celebrates that God chose to dwell among us in a tabernacle of flesh.
Do you realize the implications of all that? :)
2007-12-09 19:56:06 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
It amazes me that people consider that such a dark secret. Of course I knew that - ancient theologians made a big deal about it, and you can thank recent Christian scholars for providing you with that information. Well, at least the parts that aren't pure speculation.
2007-12-09 20:01:01 · answer #11 · answered by NONAME 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋