Anyone can help me solving this issue?

Question

My neighbors (Muslims & other faiths) & I that lived very next to the Surau (small mosque).

We r okay with the Azans, including the dawn Azan. Infact almost all of us wake up during the dawn Azan at 5.50am, and we r kind of welcoming that. My self & Muslim neigbor frequently pray at the Surau too.

Since a week ago there is this man comes into the Surau earlier at 5.am.-5.15 am, use the Adzan speaker to recite verses. He said that is "Taharim". And purposely to 'wake up' the neighbors.

Most of my neighbours, including myself found it so disturbing, The volume is similar to Azan & the recital is going on for 30-45 minutes, and has been disturbing our sleep especially for those who have newborns.

My neighbors hoped I could do something about it. So I have talked to the man, to consider us & do the recital in the afternoon prayer instead of dawn.

But he was furious & told me he did'nt care about a few Muslims & Kaffirs complaints, and said the Hadiths asked to do so.

Answer 1

You are right, he is wrong.

That thing is bid'ah. Obviously he is a misguided man who is trying to do good in religion, but in order for a deed to be accepted it must be:
1) sincerely in done in the name of Allah
2) in accordance with sunnah of Mohammad a.s.w.s.
(refer to البحر الرائق by Ahmad Ferid, first chapter)

Ask him which hadeeth said so? I can't recall any...

Living in Malaysia i am well aware what you're talking about. It's not just about those sleeping, when I lived in KL it was so loud that mosque's speaker disturbed me in my night prayers.

In order to wake up people use 2 adhans for fajr, not that recital thing. In time of Rasulullah s.a.w.s were 2 adhans for fajr, first by Bilal, and second by a blind man named Ibn Ummi Maktoum. Bilal's adhan was to wake up people for sahur, and night prayer, and Ibn Ummi Maktoum's adhan announced the start of fajr time.

Adhan has a purpose, and that is to call people to prayer (it was also used for announcements in time of Mohammad a.s. and the 4 guided caliphs). Other than that shouldn't be on loudspeakers in order not to disturb people with their chores.

Loud recital has no basis in Sunnah. Does he think he knows Islam better than Rasulullah s.a.w.s. did?

Quiet within is wrong.
1) in time of Rasulullah a.s.w.s. there were no loudspeakers
2) adhan was called in a loud tone from an elevated position so people could hear it
3) taharim is not sunnah, it's bid'ah
4) go to Masjid Al-Haram or Masjid Al-Nabawi. You won't hear taharim. Adhan is on the big loudspeakers and iqamat and prayer on loudspeakers but not so loud.

It doesn't have anything to do with other faiths. I am a Muslim, and I wake up every night at least an hour before fajr and that thing would disturb me in my night prayer or if I recite Al-Qur'an at night. Luckily I don't live that near to such a mosque now.

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Job, in Malaysia there is nothing you can do about it legally, the only way is to talk to that guy.

Answer 2

As salaamu 'alaikym, my freind.

Not knowing in which nation you reside, it is diffiicult to advise you.
If you are in a Western nation, undoubtedly there is a law agains the disturbing of the peace.

Insha'Allah, you might also ask this man if, according to the revelations in the Holy Qur'an, there is compulsion in regards to religion.
Insha'Allah, you might also ask him if a hadith can be considered authentic if it contradicts the Holy Qur'an.
If there is no compulsion in regards to religion and many of those who are being disturbed by this man and his actions are not Muslim, he is trying to force them to conform to Islam and such is forbidden.
If a hadith says that one must do such, it would then be in direct contradiction to the revelations of the Holy Qur'an, which is, without a doubt, the revealed Word of Allah, Subhanna wa Ta'ala.

In all honesty, you appear to be trying to reason with an unreasonable man which might be like trying to breathe when there is no air or when ones head is under water.

If such is the case, ear plugs might be the best answer.

Ma'a salaam

Answer 3

They ain't yo mama. You are (should be) grown adults able of taking care of your own problems. I lived somewhere in Oregon where the one lady played music loudly and the other lady called the landlord in the night when it happened. The landlord kicked out the complainer for complaining too much. Most rental agreements have a clause to the effect of "disturbing the peaceful enjoyment of the property may result in eviction." It is a legal contract that you, the annoying people and the landlord signed. Someone inherited the business so you have ground for legal action if the landlord fails to follow through with their side of the contract. Reminding them of that usually helps. That said I stick by my original comment.

Answer 4

C dis is a very personnel matter & u cannot dictate as long as religion is concerned. I am sure the place u live at must be having some local laws resticting the use of loud speakers. Use dat law for the same.
But the best way ideally shud be dat da person should realise.
Or any easier way could be dat u also play loud music especailly wen th eperson in question is having rest. I am sure dais way is not th eproper way bt sometimes u need to tread a wrong path to correct somebody.

Answer 5

I believe if neighbors are finding it disturbing then he should take care of it. they are not disobeying any verse or Islam, GOd Forbid, infact they wake up for the prayer, as you have mentioned. "Assalatu khairum minannaum", is there in Adhan which means, Salat is better than Sleep, which shows that its the time for muslims to wake up and offer their salat.

So I believe He should take care of it, and can recite those verses at Asr time because usually people wake up at Asr time.

Rest Allah knows the best brother!

Answer 6

Which ahadeeth is this? You wake with athan for prayers. This should be good enough. Can't he say his reciting in the mosque by himself?

Quiet within - good answer. I just learned something new.

Answer 7

he shouldn't do it if its bothering the neighbors. There might be ppl of other faith in your neighborhood and their sleep must be getting disturbed constantly. Ofcource they might not say anything out of respect and maybe out of fear but that doesnt mean we stop caring about them
Talk to the imam about this and inshallah u all can come up with a solution
asalaam-u-alaikum

Answer 8

Firstly, he is right.

secondly, you are right.

Let me explain.

1st, he is right since the "taharim" is something that use to be done during the life time of our holy prophet(pbuh). And it is something that should be done, to relive the Islamic.... atmosphere....(i don't what better word to describe it) in the neigbourhood.
But he is not right, when he didn't take in the neighbours feeling and caused hard feelings among the neighbour and him. Care should be taken in doing it. In my neighbourhood the "taharim" is usually done 10-15 minutes before adzan. and moderate the volume to audible(over the microphone) but not too low as not to be heard at all. This will act as a reminder that the prayer time for fajr is indeed near already.

2ndly, you are right that you should do something about it. Tell him to consider the families and neighbours feeling and tell him the best way possible so as not to hurt his feelings. He cares too much about calling people to prayers but he forgot that he shouldn't do that without consideration to his neighbours feelings especially those that have newborns. Its better to talk to people diplomaticly then to just barge in without consideration.
Relation to Allah. Relation to Man.
Hablumminallah. Hablumminannas.

This must be taken in consideration. Its good to call people to prayer. But not good if you make people don't like you in doing it because of your attitude. That is not wise.
Take the middle road, that is most just.

Answer 9

He sounds selfish and is banging you over the head with your faith because you'll conform. What about your city noise bylaw? That might shut him up and he can rant in the afternoon like you first suggested politely to him. From a christian friend..

Answer 10

He is wrong you are right, to much honey will make you sick. Faith comes in stages, and publicly the Imam should preach to the weakest of faith and the most faithful, that is why it is better in Islam to make the Friday sermon short.

Edit: Quiet Within has the best answer by far. thank you brother and brother AQ is right, i never thought i would hear my self saying that. lol about AQ