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i am relatively young, but i was taught that a man should take their hats off when entering a building.
It seems that the only people who know this are few guys who were taught this, and military men.
Who else thinks its rude?
I usually dont care enough to say anything unless im at work, but it still seems rude.
Did anyone NOT know of this 'rule'?

By the way, i am bad about keeping elbows off the table, so i am bad in my own way.

2007-12-09 16:18:20 · 16 answers · asked by zorro1701e 5 in Society & Culture Etiquette

First off, Laxkid, i think Nazis usually kept their hats on indoors.
Second, i have no anger with hats indoors. I was just taught that it was considered rude. I do however understand that different sub-cultures hold different mores in regards to "head coverings"

Thugs. I have no beef with thugs either. I was leading a funeral procession one day at work, when i drove by two "thug-looking" teens, they took their hat off as i drove by...out of respect.

I am not trying to hold on to obsolete rules. Some rules have no revelance in todays society. I have not been able to find out why keeping your hat on is considered bad manners, i did however find out that the elbow rule was because a long time ago, people had to do a lot of physical labor, farmers, factory workers, miners, etc. They usually had very dirty elbows, and to keep the table cloths clean, they kept elbows off the table.

Again, i am not trying to hold onto obsolete rules, but i do not disregaurd them just because i dont agree.

2007-12-11 14:54:32 · update #1

16 answers

I'm sure the custom of removing hats indoors didn't develop in a place with a warm climate. I guess it's okay for guys to remove their hat in a cool climate and in winter, but when I went to college in Colorado and also when I lived in Texas, in summer I much preferred people to keep their hat *on*! Go out even for a little while in the sun and the hair will be sweaty and sticking to their head, now honestly what looks better... a nice clean hat or sweaty hair plastered to a guy's head???

2007-12-09 22:26:39 · answer #1 · answered by Sheriam 7 · 1 0

I do not think it is rude at all and if you ask me, I would say it's (the hat thing) a sexist rule that is imposed by people who are extremely uptight or have nothing better to do. I say sexist because in a world where people are opening up to the idea of equality between men and women, imposing certain rules on one gender over the other is not something that is currently valued by mass society. In this case, the male is at the disadvantage and is not able to express his freedom but is constrained by a silly cultural standard/rule.

There are more important things in the world than worrying about these things. In response to the elbows, in all types of restaurants this is not a big deal. If everyone was obsessed with etiquette, we won't have bad customer service or snobby waiters. It is more important to be nice to people than to worry where your elbows are or if you are wearing a hat indoors.

People who impose these rules can actually be "mean" and "disrespectful" and they talk about "etiquette." Wearing or not wearing hats indoors is more related to cultural rules than human universals of what is right and wrong. Those who impose these rules on other kids from other cultures who do not have these beliefs, are not being tolerative of what others believe and their own cultural values.

If you talk about "hats" or even indoor head coverings, there are many people who do this and they are considered prominent figures in society. For example, the catholics and the Pope's hat; the jews and their jarmulka or religious hat; and the muslims and their "hat"-like head coverings for men. What makes this an acceptable covering and not others? What makes hats of a certain shape (e.g., touques) more acceptable than others - it's cultural beliefs (and these are not human universals that people follow world-wide, but are specific to a certain society/culture).

People who believe in this say it's a sign of disrespect if men wear in indoors. Is the Pope, therefore, being disrespectful? Then they say the Pope has a different type of head covering and the types that kids wear are disrespectful because they resemble hooligan-like clothing and should be schooled to know better. What makes them judge that they are hooligans or "disrespectful" because they wear their hats? They are surely being superficial and "judging a book by its cover." If you want to teach solid values, don't teach kids about these non-sense conventions that instill vanity rather than altruism or good social values.

Those who believe in these rules should de-construct their beliefs and consider the true purposes behind them. They may all just be followers of a certain rule without giving it much thought as to why it exists or what purpose it has? Are they doing damage or promoting the wrong ideas by enforcing it?

2007-12-10 13:59:47 · answer #2 · answered by Cathy 3 · 1 0

to the remark "nonldsinutah" mentioned approximately MPs no longer removing their covers indoors, that's because of the incontrovertible fact that they are under palms whilst they enter a construction. because of the fact they're oftentimes equipped with a 9mm beretta at their area, that's an emblem to tutor anybody else that they are armed. yet to respond to your question, I believe Michael P's reaction. that's a demonstration of admire to the employer or to the individuals in the form you're in. that isn't any longer in user-friendly terms a protection rigidity element, do no longer you undergo in recommendations growing to be up for the duration of common college whilst instructors might ask you to get rid of your hat interior the lecture room or the cafeteria?

2016-10-10 23:10:59 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

There are many "rules" broken every day, some because of ignorance, some because of "lack of knowledge" and some from plain disrespect. I feel (from old school) that a hat is not required indoors EVER. I don't see the reason for anyone not to remove it to show a sign of respect (unless they have none) and that attitude always gets them not invited anymore.

2007-12-09 16:33:52 · answer #4 · answered by Lab 7 · 2 2

Yes, I do think it's rude for a man or a woman to wear a hat indoors. Same thing with sunglasses. I don't fuss about it or anything because it's not that big a deal. I do notice though. I'm a 22 year old woman. I think that it is not considered as rude in general by my generation as the past one.

2007-12-09 16:23:34 · answer #5 · answered by Marlena 4 · 1 2

I think it depends.
I am in college and there are some winter days, heck there are some days in general, that I don't feel like doing my hair. So I put on a hat and the problem is solved!

2007-12-09 16:26:50 · answer #6 · answered by Kitkat 4 · 3 0

Yes - I agree it's rude or at least, shows a lack of courtesy. I also agree about sunglasses as mentioned in a previos answer. And most people put their elbows on the table!

2007-12-09 16:29:45 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

i think it's very rude. but i'm in a great position to educate. i'm an elementary school librarian and i service 700+ children. i usually see about 200 a day. the children don't usually have hats, but they wear hooded sweatshirts. i've always told them that gentlemen never wear their hats indoors. some have asked why and i printed out some info on the subject and posted it in my library. very few forget now. it bothers me that teachers allow it in the classroom, but i cannot do anything about that. once a teacher told me it was freezing outside and i said of course they should wear it outside, but i have a heater. last week my heater didn't work and i allowed hoods for the first time.

i have seen our principal telling children to remove hoods in the cafeteria,. bless her.


edit.and isn't ignorance and lack of knowledge synonymous?

i forgot to mention, i don't have the girls remove hats. the custom applies to men. few girls wear them to school anyway. in the past, you couldn't have a woman donning and doffing her hat. she used hat pins!

2007-12-09 16:34:25 · answer #8 · answered by slkrchck 6 · 1 2

These sorts of things take a very long time to change. Last I checked it was still rude.

2007-12-11 11:21:32 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think that this type of etiquette has gone by the wayside. What is really rude by today's standards is someone talking on their cellphone while conducting business whether it be at a bank, a restaurant, etc.

2007-12-09 16:35:24 · answer #10 · answered by chaya k 1 · 2 1

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