Is it tolerance or gradualism?

Question

Is accepting two people of the same sex engaging in a sex act as "normal" showing tolerance or is it a gradual decline of our civilization? If you say tolerance, why shouldn't other sexual deviances that are also viewed by the majority of mankind as evil also be tolerated, such as adultery, incest, polygamy?

People might be born with a tendency to be attracted to the opposite sex, but ACTING on that desire is what I am talking about. Just as if I had a desire to commit polygamy, ACTING on it is what leads to trouble.

We cannot set our own standards of right and wrong. That is why we have governments, laws, a justice system, etc., because when someone sets their own standards, society may reject those standards are immoral and wrong and may punish the offender.

Many of you are saying "Mind your own business." Why don't homosexuals keep their sexual orientation private like heterosexuals? I don't participate in parades that glorify my sex life. When homos are prancing in the streets, it becomes my business because I have to see it. This is so different from tolerating a person because of their culture or race or nationality, because it goes against nature.

Answer 1

i think its a gradual acceptence as our civilization slowly matures and we come to realize that our morality is for us as an individual and not for us to impose it on others---just my thoughts-smile and enjoy the night

Answer 2

It is minding my own business. Such a union can not hurt anyone but those involved in it. Deviants are people who do things to another person is uncomfortable that makes them uncomfortable and is resisted. Sexual acts between 2 consenting adults is nobody else's business - even polygamy. If a man thinks he can support 2 wives and the women agree to it, what business is it of anyone else?

Peace!

later...
I find that both homosexuals and heterosexuals are about equal about keeping the details of their personal life private. I see heterosexuals bragging about sexual conquests and performing public displays of affection way more than I have seen homosexuals - and for safety reason homosexuals generally only let down their guard in private.

I find the only people focused on the private details of homosexuals (besides the homosexuals themselves) are homophobic to some extent and the problem really lies with them. I don't mean to be offensive, but just because you think it is wrong, does not make it so.

Peace!

Answer 3

Why shouldn't adultery be tolerated? You don't have to agree with it, but really, what business is it of yours?

How do you know that the wife isn't overjoyed to not have to be dealing with her husband's sexual urges and by happenstance picked a female the wife approves of for her husband's "consort"?

Why shouldn't incest be tolerated? Between two consenting adults (who hopefully would use protection due to the whole genetics thing), what business is it of yours?

I know a family which consists of two adult men, two adult female, and five children. Thos children have four parents, well adjusted attitudes, and are in the top of their classes. And no, the 'marriage' is not two married couples living together, the four of them share a single bed and while it really isn't anyone's business, yes, the ladies enjoy each other and the men enjoy each other as well... completely mutalistic. So what's your problem with polygamy?

Who are you to say that free expression of sexuality is not an advance in our civilization? Who are you to judge that it is in fact a decline?

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As little as 50 years ago, a black person would have to give up their seat to a white person.

Society deemed this acceptable.

Society's mind was changed because people slowly came to realize that this was not acceptable, and slowly, the gestalt opinion, the opinion of the group, changed.

Such is the way of societies.

By your logic, you'd have slaves still in their collars and chains begging their masters not to beat them, because people should not have challenged the status quo.

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First -- as a gay man and an atheist, let me tell you something: I agree that most gay pride parades are just a poor excuse to expose kinks that belong in the privacy of a bedroom.

HOWEVER...

Without the Civil Rights marches and protests, this country would still expect blacks to sit in the back of the bus (or give up their seats entirely).

You want pride parades to stop -- tolerate us and give us equal rights. Then we'll have no need to follow the example of history.

"because it goes against nature..."

There is not a single species of mammal which does not exhibit some level of homosexual interaction. Homosexuality has also been observed in avians and reptiles.

'against nature'? Homosexuality is a part of nature.

Answer 4

Because people that consider incest, and polygamy as okay behavior, are not only criminals, but a low life as well. And those who take it a step further,and want to include animals in their sick and twisted scenarios, are not worth addressing.

An adulterer, only hurts his/her mate, no one else.

As for a Gay relationships, I have no problem at all with two grown people who love each other. Or two straight people who love each other. There should be no difference between the two, except by intolerant religious zealots, who don't know how to show charity or love, or compassion.

Why don;t you people go after Bush and his immoral, illegal war, if you are, oh, so bothered about social ills.

Answer 5

I'm going to rephrase your question to give you an idea of how much your question bases itself on illogical discrimination.

Is allowing black people to drink out of our water fountains like 'normal' people showing tolerance or is it a gradual decline of our civilization? If you say tolerance, why shouldn't other racial deviances that are also viewed by the majority of mankind as evil also be tolerated, such as interracial relationships, allowing immigrants, and letting blacks sit at the front of the bus?

In 50 years, I hope those against gay marriage will be laughed at as idiots the same as those who were in favor of slavery are now.

Answer 6

there is a vast difference between consensual sex and pedophilia, beastiality, and all those other evils you fear, and no one is advocating tolerance of nonconsensual sex. [except n.a.m.b.l.a., but nobody takes them seriously.]

incest has been demonstrated to be harmful to offspring, so it's not going to be tolerated. adulery is a violation of a contract, but in anycase, it's not the state's business. consensual polygamous relationships don't hurt anyone, especially when all parties consent to the relationship. i know an extremely stable polyfidelitous family whose moral values i would never question.

Answer 7

your tolerance isnt required per se. what two (or multiple) people do in their own homes behind closed doors is their own personal buisness...this "decline" you think might be happening has been happening for a long, long time...over the centuries people have had more than one wife...more than one lover, more sexual trists than you can count to...these things are normal wether you beleive it or not.

theyve been aroun a lot longer than you or your religion has.

dont try to inject your beliefs or positions into other peoples lives..speaking of the decline of something...try slowing the decline of your religion, with so many sexual misconduct scenarios coming out of the churches and the clergy youd think youd want to plug the holes in your own boat before you plug the holes in the worlds boat.

christianity's luxury liner is sinking...and here you areconcerning yourself with what theyre doing on the gay cruise...

Answer 8

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Answer 9

We live in a time where many words are being redefined. For example intolerance means not agreeing.

...sadly adultery is all too often accepted.

Answer 10

Shouldn't you accept everybody, as long as they aren't doing illegal or immoral things?

Anyway, how would you go about not accepting or not tolerating gays, or whatever? Let people have the lifestyle that suits them.

I myself tolerate Baptists, gays, and many others.

Answer 11

The main difference - people are born gay. People aren't born with the desire to have incest, or to commit adultery. How do we know this? See below:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302066,00.html