Yesterday my Dad and I went to our local shooting range and we shot our Ruger Mark III .22 pistol and the range officer was telling my Dad how in the old military manuals it said that oil won't stick to a spot and it will all pile up in one spot and how grease will stay where its applied.
My Dad thinks that this guy isn't keeping up with times because this guy was old (we use Rem Oil) so who is correct?
2007-12-09 09:18:48 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Outdoor Recreation ➔ Hunting
My Dad and I use Rem Oil and I'm just going by what I heard.
2007-12-09 09:32:13 · update #1
Hoppe's elite gun oil is what I use and love it.
2007-12-09 10:36:21 · answer #1 · answered by bobbo342 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Guy was OLD huh..And what do you think was used for decades before Rem Oil even existed? As a Gunsmith, with many years of hands on experience, there are advantages to both Oil and Light to Medium body greases. Too much of either will of course allow dirt and debris to stick to exposed areas. Grease however will work best as the old timer told you as it does do in fact stay in place better than oil. There is a product called R.I.G. (Rust Inhibiting Grease) that has been around for many years and was initially designed for use in military weapons and was so successful, it was offered on the civilian market..It still is VERY popular among Gunsmiths as well as the general public in the know. The only disadvantage is the fact that the grease can be directly affected thru thickening caused by extreme cold temperatures. In warm or hotter environments it is an excellent lubricant, but also provides an excellent protective coating on firearms.......
As far as WD-40 is concerned..Just because the spray can says it's good for firearms, doesn't mean that it is..WD40 is already causing problems when applied to polymer framed firearms......Not good.......
People can learn things from older people with experience if they don't close their minds.....The Old Guy is correct...
2007-12-09 10:17:17 · answer #2 · answered by JD 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well, you are both right.
Depends on quite a few factors.
JD cited some great examples. Additionally, one thing that needs to be considered is how long will the weapon need to be stored and the state of readinesss of that weapon.
While I use Oil for some of my competition guns, because their state of readiness is not as immediate as my carry piece.
I use a litte bit of grease (gun butter) on my carry piece, because the oil tends to evaporate over time, and the grease tends to stick around a little while longer. If I need to use my carry piece, I'll deal with some additional cleaning if necessary... but I know the weapon will go bang, and that I can stake my life on it.
Now... some greases may not work well at all temperatures... so each application may be different
2007-12-09 13:56:35 · answer #3 · answered by C M 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Kyle- As with any new rifle or handgun, there is going to be some break in that will have to happen. Its just the nature of the beast. I have in the past used a little lapping compund for my semi-automatic rifles, just to help with the break in period. But I only use it for the first outing to the range, then as soon as they get home, they get a very good cleaning. I make sure that I have all of the lapping compund out of the firearm by using either Gun Scrubber or my personal favorite, Brake Kleen from Kragen's I only ever use a small amount of that material. As for lubrication, I use Break Free CLP. I use this unless I am going to store the piece for a long period of time, then as the other person mentioned, lithium based grease will work for the long term storage. Another material you can use for long term storage is Cosmoline. The only issue with this material is it needs to be applied warm, and it is a real nuisance to remove later. But the off-set is the fact your firearms will not rust or be exposed to moisture. I have a couple of rifles that I store in that material, that probably only see the light of day every three or four years or so. Plus since I live in a coastal environment, and have to deal with salt air, I tend to be a little more liberal with the lubricants, and getting long term storage items cared for. However, when I do go to the range, I give them a solid wipe down and run through the actions and barrels to get them ready for shooting. As with all firearms, if they are used, expect a little wear and tear on them from time to time. Good Luck and Happy Shooting.
2016-04-08 04:10:45 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Oil, if you're referring to routine cleaning and lubricaton of the barrel.
Grease is too thick. While dust and miniscule particles are attracted by both, grease will attract large particles as well-not something you want in your barrel!
Grease could be used on certain parts of the trigger group-but that's not something involved in routine cleaning and lubrication.
BTW the Mark III is a really nice gun-I have a Mark II and love it!
A thin oil is best-personally I think WD-40 is garbage, and favor gun oil. It is slightly thicker and preferred by most gunsmiths.
2007-12-09 09:53:17 · answer #5 · answered by Scooter 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think you might use both, however in different areas. I think oil is great for the exterior of the gun, I.E. barrel, receiver stuff like that. You can also run oil down the barrel to prevent rusting. However, it should to be removed before you shoot. Grease should be used mostly in areas like the trigger action, and in some cases on the bolt or slide. If you are in a high dust and dirt area, dirt will stick to both. Which ever you decide to use, don't put it on to thick.
David
2007-12-09 17:27:23 · answer #6 · answered by David D 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Original lubricant for the m1 garand and m1a call for grease. especially on the roller for the charging handle/op rod. Military rifles are built to a looser tolerance than commercial rifles because of the harsh conditions they operate under. So, grease was and still is the best choice for that application, however, the rest of the firearm should be lubed with a good oil. I recommend Break free CLP. It is approved by the military, and I have used it with great success for many years. On newer military rifles like the m16 or the commercial ar15, break frees is highly recommended for all but sandy conditions, like on Iraq where the sand is so fine it is like talcom powder. It that situation, the military calls for dry lubricant like powdered graphite.
2007-12-09 10:17:23 · answer #7 · answered by randy 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I don't quite understand what he meant by pile up in one spot, but I use a lee-enfield from 1914 and i prefer to use gun oil to grease.
2007-12-09 09:28:53 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Use regular gun oil that you can buy at any gun shop or even walmart, never use grease, that stuff gets thick like glue when you take your weapon out in the cold and your weapon will malfunction. The Army uses oil, it is called CLP....
2007-12-09 10:41:01 · answer #9 · answered by Stampy Skunk 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Best advice is to read the owners manual and follow the instructions given for cleaning and lubricating.
2007-12-10 06:58:53 · answer #10 · answered by corey h 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋