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but my question to atheists is, r u an atheist or an eggnostic?

atheist - belives in no being just evolution.

eggnostic - believes in a being just not sure what it is. for example, a person who dosn't believe in the bible but believes that everything is controlled by something.

and y do atheists have to have proof. it's like, there so shallow they need actul proof because faith isn't enough. look outsside your window, all the beautiful trees and wildlife. how do u think that all got there, i suppsoe evolution just made it right?

2007-12-09 08:04:11 · 34 answers · asked by shortay 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

sorry agnostic w/e

2007-12-09 08:08:17 · update #1

i am not a child!!!!!!!!! i'm 18!

2007-12-09 08:11:24 · update #2

I HATE U ALL!

2007-12-09 08:12:55 · update #3

bad things happen because of the devil. u guys really have no brains. fat heads but there hollow!

2007-12-09 08:19:06 · update #4

34 answers

ALL PEOPLE WHO THINK THEIR RIGHT ABOUT THEIR RELIGION ARE WRONG. THEIR REALLY IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG TO RELGION. IM A CHRISTIAN AND IM VERY PROUND. IM NOT GOING TO SAY THAT YOU CAN'T BE WHATEVER SHE SAID UP THERE ^ BUT I AM SAYING THAT IF YOU WANT TO BE IN HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE AND NOT IN HELL THEN YOU SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF CHRISTIAN AND NOT BELIEVE THAT YOUR GOING TO DIE AND BECOME A TREE WHEN YOUR DIED BC CHANCES ARE, YOUR NOT GOING TO BE!!!

2007-12-09 08:16:33 · answer #1 · answered by D-weezy 2 · 1 4

I must say, if you're a real theist, you're doing a damn good job of looking like an atheist doing a bad job of trying to discredit the theists. But I'll respond to your question as if you're a theist anyway.

>ATHEISTS? they think there so right and logical.?

That makes sense considering that they ARE usually more right and logical than theists.

>but my question to atheists is, r u an atheist or an eggnostic?

An atheist. A weak atheist, to be precise (and no, that doesn't mean what it sounds like it means).

>atheist - belives in no being just evolution.

That is incorrect. Almost all atheists do believe in many beings. As an atheist, I believe in all 6500000000 beings belonging to the human species, along with many billion other beings on Earth which belong to other species. What I don't believe in is a SUPERNATURAL being.

>eggnostic - believes in a being just not sure what it is.

That is incorrect. Agnostics do not believe in a supernatural being. Agnostics are by definition those who have not made a judgement on the existence of supernatural beings.

>and y do atheists have to have proof. it's like, there so shallow they need actul proof because faith isn't enough.

Saying faith isn't enough isn't entirely accurate. You could just as well say that faith is too much. Either way, the real problem with faith is that it is arbitrary, that it provides no method of refining one's beliefs towards the truth. Consider the real world: There are millions of people who have faith in Jesus, who believe, on faith, that Jesus is watching over them. And there are also millions of people who have faith in the hindu god Shiva, who believe, on faith, that Shiva is watching over them and that Jesus never existed. BOTH of these groups have faith. BOTH of them are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that their beliefs are right (because that's what faith is). But this leads to a contradiction: If faith is enough to validate belief, then the faith of the christians validates the belief that Jesus exists, and the faith of the hindus validates the belief that Jesus doesn't exist. But Jesus can't both exist and not exist at the same time, and so either the christians or the hindus MUST be wrong- EVEN after having faith in their beliefs. This shows us that faith CANNOT be a valid way to find the truth, because we have seen a case, in the real world, where faith led to two conclusions which CANNOT both be true at the same time.

THAT is why we freethinkers use logic. With faith, you stick yourself into a permanent belief that is no more valid than any other faithful person's belief, regardless of their religion. But with logic, you retain the ability to doubt, the ability to change- to IMPROVE- your beliefs as more evidence comes to light. As we've seen above, faith can lead you to a wrong conclusion. However, evidence cannot lead you to a wrong conclusion; only a LACK of evidence can lead you to a wrong conclusion.

>look outsside your window, all the beautiful trees and wildlife. how do u think that all got there, i suppsoe evolution just made it right?

Natural selection was the process by which those species of trees and animals became what they are now, yes. However, natural selection was not responsible for making them beautiful. Remember the old saying, 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder'? The trees and animals do not have any innate beauty, any more than any other object has any innate beauty. We only perceive them as beautiful because we ourselves have also evolved, and our brains have evolved to perceive beauty in those things.

>I HATE U ALL!

That's not a very christian attitude...

2007-12-09 08:36:47 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

You hate us all? Does that include all the answerers? Well, now I know that some Christians can be hateful. Even towards someone who she doesn't not know.

Yeah sure, lets just go with this faith like everybody did in the past. Lets just burn people who practices witchcraft and the ones that doesn't along with it. Who cares about killing innocent people along with it? There's no way of knowing it since according to you we shouldn't use evidence or proof or anything like that. Proofs are shallow and uncool so lets just not use them and just guess right from top of our head. I also think that we should've had more faith in Hitler even though he kept attacking after he gave his words.

PS: Are you saying that evolution doesn't exist? Is it impossible for any creatures to evolve? We all just popped up one day? Have you studied at least even one or two things about science in particular? Do you pay any attention in school?

2007-12-09 15:10:32 · answer #3 · answered by Reaper 6 · 0 0

Atheists think they have cornered the market on the human intellect and all people of any faith are unthinking, deluded, brainwashed idiots. They alone are enightened beings capable of logical reasoning while those who claim faith have the intellect of plankton.
As an example, instead of answering the question, they pointed out your misspelling of the word agnostic. Now, a logical, rational person would recognize the mistake, mentally make the correction and move past it. Instead, they draw attention to it and poke fun at it and claim you are uneducated.
Just live your life for Christ and don't worry about them.

Rom 12:2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, in order to prove by you what is that good and pleasing and perfect will of God.

2007-12-09 08:13:00 · answer #4 · answered by prismcat38 4 · 1 2

Last time I checked, the definition of shallow isn't needing actual proof.

And that's the wrong definition of atheist too


And nature has a lot of discourse and conflict. Maybe you should learn something about biology.

2007-12-09 08:44:25 · answer #5 · answered by Moo 5 · 0 0

i'm an agnostic. and by the way, not all agnostics believe in a higher being. some, like myself, question that there is such a thing as god as well.

and yes, evolution did make the trees and wildlife.

2007-12-09 08:15:14 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Sad, you spelled atheist right and then mangled agnostic. I ALMOST took you seriously. Almost. Keep trying.
edit: If you're not a child then don't act like one. Learn to spell out side of "text type" and we must just be able to have an intelligent conversation.

2007-12-09 08:11:44 · answer #7 · answered by ~Heathen Princess~ 7 · 1 2

Are you a native English Speaker?
My atheist logic can't get its head around your language and last time I checked, I didn't "belive (sic) in no being just evolution".
You should check your details before you go jamming your foot in your undeniably large mouth.

It's people like you that make me proud to be an atheist.

2007-12-09 08:10:31 · answer #8 · answered by jonnyAtheatus 4 · 3 2

So, are you a christian troll, or an atheist one? Or some other kind? Let's talk about why you feel the need to do this... would you like that?

Did mommy not love you? Was daddy always at work? Did the minister touch you in bad places? You can tell me... I won't laugh.


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Holy ****... is this nitwit for REAL?

2007-12-09 08:15:20 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

You are a child. 18 is a baby. You have a long way to go my dear. In the growth of becoming mature I sincerely hope you learn to spell properly. You fool no one.

A person who only believes in a book called the Bible is very immature and illiterate of the finer books with truths in them. You are and have been brainwashed.

2007-12-09 08:17:06 · answer #10 · answered by Tricia R 5 · 2 3

you dont really hate us. hate would be one of the seven deadly sins and is a one way ticket to hell. but anyways. your definition of atheist is wrong. an atheist is a person who doesnt believe in any supernatural deity. thats it. it has nothing to do with evolution.

2007-12-09 08:18:28 · answer #11 · answered by god_of_the_accursed 6 · 1 1

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