Creationists please explain this to me?

Question

Alright I am Roman Catholic myself and I am not opposing God in any way, so don't go ballistic and flame me in every word you type.

Now answer me this, is anything proved in the bible? Why is our DNA closest to the monkey and why is evolution false? Also if evolution was so battered by creationists, why would Pope John Paul II embrace evolution and say, "Evolution is Compatible with Christian faith". I mean, you cannot say this man was an idiot, he was the Pope! Please explain.

All the questions I have asked have been answered but were questions not related to the bible or christian faith EXCEPT the one going against the Bible.. no one has yet answered? Is it that hard to say no?

Answer 1

There is claim that humans and apes share 95 percent of their genetic information and that this is proof of evolution. It is also shown for example, the genetic analyses published in New Scientist have revealed a 75% similarity between the DNA of nematode worms and man. This definitely does not mean that there is only a 25% difference between man and these worms! It is surely natural for the human body to bear some molecular similarities to other living beings being that we are on the same planet. This "common material" is the result not of evolution but of "common design," that is, of their being created upon the same plan.

Darwinism or Neo-Darwinism or what have you, generally refers to the idea that all life present on the Earth has a common ancestor… a tiny, simple, single-celled organism. I accept that evolution happens… finch's beaks change size and shape to some limited extent over time. I have no problem with evolution in that specific sense, and that is well-supported by evidence. Micro evolution is real. Call me an evolutionist if that is what is being talked about.

But micro-evolution has not been shown to add up to macro-evolution, no matter in which way or over how long a period the evidence is observed! On the contrary, evidence shows that different life forms on Earth appeared quite abruptly without any evolutionary ancestors.

No, the Bible has no proof other than to say, "God created the heavens and the earth ..."

Edit: For 'stewie': In Genesis, plants came on day 3; animals on day 6.

Answer 2

The pope is (hopefully) a theologian, but not a scientist. A minority of scientists believes that there is absolutely no serious proof for evolution.
Different groups or denominations calling themselves Christian have different attitudes toward the Bible. The Roman Catholic church, of which the Pope is the head, considers the Bible to be one authority, alongside tradition, the church fathers, the pope, and the ecumenical church councils. Most evangelical denominations consider the Bible to be the only authority in matters of Christian faith and practice. The conclusions drawn will obviously be quite different.
For the past hundred years, or almost, evolution has become the prevailing belief as far as the origins of the earth are concerned. Back in the 1400's, the prevailing scientific belief was that the Sun and the rest of the universe revolved around the earth. Fads, beliefs, convictions, even the "proved" ones, come and go. I tend to take a lot of things with a grain of salt.

Answer 3

You ask if anything is proved in the Bible, I ask if anything in the Bible has been DISPROVEN and the answer is an emphatic NO.
Evolution is absolutely not compatible with Christian faith. A Christian believes that the Bible is the Holy Word of God. The Genesis account records that He created the world in six literal days (the morning and the evening were the X day...) Last time I checked a morning and an evening were a literal 24 hour period. There are many theories that try to make this into something that it is not, to make evolutionary theory fit with creationism. They do not and cannot fit together. Either He created it in six literal days or the Bible is a big fat lie.
I don't care what the Pope says about anything. He is not God on earth or His representative, Jesus was. There are untold millions of believers around the globe, so what better way for Satan to deceive them than to put a "religious" leader up front and say that evolution is compatible? That is just my opinion. The pope does not speak for me or the Christian faith, He speaks only for the Roman Catholic Church. I would never say He was an idiot, I would say he was deceived.

Answer 4

Now answer me this, is anything proved in the bible?

These are science-related issues that address your question. Bare in mind these were written 3500+ years ago by ‘Bronze Age sheep herders’

8The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.
(the Gulf Stream and ocean currents, modern science did not ‘rediscover until Mathew Murray.

7 All streams flow into the sea,
yet the sea is never full.
To the place the streams come from,
there they return again.

( We call this evaporation and water circulation. This would have been quite difficult to have figured out in the deserts of Judeah.

7 God stretches the northern sky over empty space
and hangs the earth on nothing.
(What holds the earth up? Nothing.)


This addresses what we see today, remember these were wrote 2000-3500 years ago.

2 I will make Jerusalem like an intoxicating drink that makes the nearby nations stagger when they send their armies to besiege Jerusalem and Judah. 3 On that day I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock. All the nations will gather against it to try to move it, but they will only hurt themselves

Except for the US, and the UK, it would be fair to say that the rest of the world would love to see Israel gone.

7 “Before the birth pains even begin,
Jerusalem gives birth to a son.
8 Who has ever seen anything as strange as this?
Who ever heard of such a thing?
Has a nation ever been born in a single day?
Has a country ever come forth in a mere moment?
But by the time Jerusalem’s birth pains begin,
her children will be born.
1948 The nation of Israel formed in 1 (one) day. Never has this occurred before

11 "For this is what the Lord GOD says: See, I Myself will search for My flock and look for them. As a shepherd looks for his sheep on the day he is among his scattered flock, so I will look for My flock. I will rescue them from all the places where they have been scattered on a cloudy and dark day. I will bring them out from the peoples, gather them from the countries, and bring them into their own land. I will shepherd them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines, and in all the inhabited places of the land.

The Jewish people have left their homes, business, jobs, careers everything to go ‘home’ Most people would never leave all behind for a desert, and constant terror.

And their bodies will lie in the main street of Jerusalem, the city that is figuratively called “Sodom” and “Egypt,” the city where their Lord was crucified. And for three and a half days, all peoples, tribes, languages, and nations will stare at their bodies. No one will be allowed to bury them. All the people who belong to this world will gloat over them and give presents to each other to celebrate the death of the two prophets who had tormented them.

For all peoples, tribes and languages and nations to ‘stare’ at one time you must have satellite TV. This in only now possible

16 I heard the size of their army, which was 200 million, mounted troops.
When this was wrote the worlds population would have been a fraction of this. Today for china to have a 200 million man army is not a great feat.


Why is our DNA closest to the monkey
A very wise man explained to me that creatures that seem to be the same may not be so close after all, One of the primary differences is can they interbreed and produce offspring. I dare to venture no. Since I think it is fair to say that most of DNA, we have not quite understood, is it not reasonable to assume until proved other wise, that a huge portion of DNA serves as instructions on design. By this I mean, two legs, two eyes, two lungs. Hair, external ears, the sense of smell, taste, hot, cold?

Could you not draw the same comparison between say, “Finding Nemo’s computer game, and lets say, the computer program that mapped the human genno. Both run entirely off of 1’s and 0’s nothing more than a simple code of 1 and zeros, But the way they are assembled, sets them far apart.

and why is evolution false? Is it? This is an argument that neither side will agree upon. Just as some will say that a 6-month-old pre-born child is a precious life, while another group will look at the same thing and say it is no more than a choice.

Also if evolution was so battered by creationists, why would Pope John Paul II
embrace evolution and say, "Evolution is Compatible with Christian faith". I mean, you cannot say this man was an idiot, he was the Pope! Please explain.

Pope John Paul, was a man. And as such, he was susceptible to mistakes. I am not saying he did or he did not. Lets remember at one time the church sold ‘forgiveness’ that was a mistake. Forgiveness comes from only one source. The church also condemned Galeleo for saying the earth went around the sun, once again the church was wrong. My point is man makes mistakes.


All the questions I have asked have been answered but were questions not related to the bible or christian
faith EXCEPT the one going against the Bible.. no one has yet answered? Is it that hard to say no?

I’m not sure what you are asking here. But I will venture a guess. In Gen. We read that ‘God formed man from the dust of the earth with his hands” All other creation was ‘spoke into being’ Then God himself, breathed the breath of Life into his nostrils” and man became alive. Either God told the truth or he lied, if he lied in the first chapter, then how can anything else be trusted? That is why, the two are not compatible.

Answer 5

It is possible to believe in evolution and be a Christian. It is also hypothetically possible to believe in batman and be a Christian.

No, I'm not saying the two things are the same; the arguments for evolution have teeth, though I've never actually seen this epoch's end to know how the tide will turn in the future. The Pope's point is that there are a number of things which are not "de fide", and that evolution is one of them.

Now, our DNA is closest to monkeys because we are genetically similar to monkeys. Very simple.

Answer 6

Yes, there are many things in the Bible that have been proved: histories, prophesies, events, people, places, things....

And just because DNA's are similar, does not in any way imply that one came from the other -- no more than a penny and nickel, though similar, come from one another. God used the same basic building block in creating most life on earth. It is bound to be similar. A measure of its similarity is NOT a measure of its evolutionary progression.

Evolutionary scientists know, but don't make widely known for obvious reasons, that the fossil record is not continuous. That is, in the terms they use, it is punctuated, with eras of massive new life forms suddenly appearing in a strata, where there is no previous evidence of development. This, in itself, is strong evidence that evolution is in error.

Not to say that evolutionary scientists aren't smart (no more or less so your Pope), but that does not mean they don't make mistakes and are prone to human prejudice, especially when they start with the premise that the Bible is allegorical or merely man-written and CANNOT be scientifically correct. Many of the sciences, for the past few centuries, have been taught to disregard ANY evidence that appears to have a religious origin, or even connection, that it is merely myth. And this IS what many people firmly believe.

Evolution has been assumed to be the truth, and many people even believe it has been proven as fact, for so many years, that many do not even know what assumptions have been made to arrive at today's "understanding."

And whether you take this as flame of not, it's not intended as such, the Catholic Church has belittled the Word of God for centuries. It's belief that the Bible is secondary, at best, to the RCC's "Traditions" and established doctrines, is how they can make statements like you mention.

Answer 7

There are pink dolphins in the Amazon too! And Jellyfish in the Andes. Dolphins and killer whales can breed. In fact, that's what creationists do with it. It's called breeding. Have you seen the diversity the were able to get after about 50 years of breeding foxes? Project that into the thousands, and there you go. And it gets even more interesting when you consider that the more genetic material, the more diversity. There was a lot more potential for differences at the beginning than there is now - with generation after generation of inbreeding. Each generation loses something.

Answer 8

the fossil evidence disproves Genesis, which states fruiting plants were created before animals. Sad how the creationists grope for straws for arguing against evolution theory (which will ALWAYS be incomplete), but will never address their false doctrine.

Evolution theory is the ONLY scientific theory which explains the development of life on earth.

Answer 9

First off, Creationists are almost always Protestants so the pope doesn't factor into this for them. Second they will say that just because there are similarities that doesn't mean that we are descended from them. I don't believe it but you really can't argue with these people, they believe things without evidence so I don't know how you debate with that.

Answer 10

Don't believe everything the pope says. Seek the truth that comes from God. The pope will lead you down the wrong road.