hd DVD vs bluray?

Question

with hd dvd soon to unvail hd discs with the storage capacity of upto 150gb compaired to blurays 51gb
and hd dvd out selling bluray 3 to 1 in europe
yet sales figures of bluray outselling hd at 2to1 in usa
the sales figures of bluray owners buying 0.30 movies per blurayplayer
sales figures of hd dvd owners buying on avarage of 6.3 movies per hd player brought
is it just playstation 3 that is keeping the bluray movie format alive even though they do not buy movies?
and will the massive influx of hd dvd players and xbox hd player add ons with a ratio of 6.3 movies per unit sold spell the end of blu ray?
what do you think?

HP who had been a big Blu-Ray supporter and dominates the Media Center PC market, introduced a $100 HD DVD upgrade for their PCs (Sony’s Blu-Ray VIAO solution was just dropped to $749). The impact of this last move is still too early to measure but there is no comparably priced (not even close) solution using Blu-Ray. with this shift in support by hewlitt packard and microsoft being the major backer of hd dvd is it all finally over can we all buy hd dvd and be happy?

Answer 1

The VHS - Beta question has come back to haunt us, to be sure, but there's a simple solution. Buy a unit that has both a Blu-ray and an HD-DVD laser diode assembly in it. You can get them stand alone or in a PC.

In the US there are far more titles available in Blu-ray, so far, but I don't have to concern myself with it because I can shop in both camps. I stick either disk into my unit and it plays.

Now that we're lasing in near-blue, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw 6 layer disks that hold 300 gig, maybe even more. There is a theoretical limit based on the diameter of the laser beam and the materials available for building disks but we have some room to grow before we reach it.

If either camp dies, it will be bad for consumers. Competition is a good thing. It spawns inovation and narrows profit margins.

Answer 2

At the moment things are to tight to tell who will come out on top. My early bet is on Blu-Ray winning. But it's still anybody's game.

Answer 3

OK, here's my view.

Neither HD DVD nor Blu-ray disks (HDM) will ever be more than a niche format ... reserved for the minority that want and can benefit from 1080p HD (similar to Criterion Disks in the DVD world, or SACD and DVD-A in the audio realm). Neither disk format is likely to "win" -- rather dual format players will appear that satisfy both sides and since this will be a niche market the higher price ($500-$700 and up) won't be a deterent for those who choose to support HDM.

HD disks will remain higher priced than DVDs (or even increase in price) to reflect their premium status (and much lower sales volume).

The majority of consumers (and even videophiles since it is unlikely the 80,000 title DVD catalog will ever be available on HD disk) will continue to watch DVDs (probably via upscaling DVD players, including HD DVD and Blu-ray players) and, for an increasing proportion, some form of lower HD quality (i.e. less than 1080p) video on demand or download service (this will be partially enabled by ever more efficient video codecs and -- analogous to MP3 in the audio realm -- reflect the higher priority most consumers put on convenience than on quality).

In the longer term -- once digital TV has been implemented so that backward compatibility is no longer a constraint -- there will be a gradual move to replace Blu-ray and HD DVD for high end home video with a higher HD resolution format (e.g 1440 or, possible but less likely, 2K (D-Cinema)), but certainly based on a broader colour space than BT.709, say xvYCC with 4:2:2 or even 4:4:4 sampling and 10 or 12 bit pixel depth . This would solve the problems with HD DVD and Blu-ray re. banding and limited colour range. The HDMI 1.3 specification already includes support (e.g. Deep Color), and 2K display devices already exist. The disc format is difficult to predict, but based on storage and bitrate demands possibly some form of DHD (digital holographic disk).

So ... in this scenario it doesn't matter which format you buy. Either HD player is currently backward compatible so you can play DVDs on your HDTV in "good enough" video quality. A greater choice of dual format players -- including some form of universal player to handle HD DVD, Blu-ray, DVD-ROM, DVD-R (etc), SACD, DVD-A and CD -- will appear that will allow consumers to buy/rent and play the media of their choice according to the capability of their audio and video system.

Gradually, people will replace DVD players with universal players, but neither HD format will "win" ... they will simply coexist.

Answer 4

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Answer 5

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