If you knew science, then you'd know two things. One, it's not an atheistic religion as you imply. Two, attempting to disprove a negative is an exercise in futility.
I now wish to pose a question unto you:
Why do believers claim to know that which they do not know? Why do they claim to have knowledge that they could not possibly posses?
2007-12-08 17:30:34
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answered by Anonymous
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"There are numerous stories about atheists setting out to disprove the existence of God and the reality of theism who became believers."
May i correct you?
"There is a lot of people telling numerous stories about atheists setting out to disprove the existence of God and the reality of theism who became believers."
I know what the bible says. I don't take quotes out of context. I quote the whole context(as far as i can go). I recognize my own mistakes if a believer points them out. They don't do it most of the time, so i suppose i am closer to the truth about the Bible than they are, even if i were going in the wrong direction too.
I don't assure things i cannot proof. I don't know a lot about the Vedas or the Kuran(but i have took a quick look at the second one). God -as in the Bible- has at least an evil part and only looks for his own worthship rather than the human satisfaction and well-being. Agree with me on that and we could start discussing things(as an alternative method you could proof me that i am wrong). The proofs that support my viewpoint are that God kills inocent people-on the Bible- and He punishes people that only "damage themselves morally" but don't damage third persons. Quotes for this are everywhere along the bible.
See ya!
PS: Sorry about my English.
PSS: I guess you will not agree on the point that God is not "all love". But its the eassiest point to agree on, so guess what happens if you don't... We would be wasting time going for harder ones.
2007-12-09 06:32:49
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answered by Dani 5
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Genesis 1:2-4 (NIV)
2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness.
[a] or possibly became
The sun came first, and then came the earth. It wasn't formless and empty, with waters on the surface, either. It was rubble, which eventually formed into a planet. A large planetisemal whacked into it, off center, and blew off a large section of the mantle. The earth eventually re-coalesced and so did the planetisemal caught in its gravity. We call it the moon. Independently verifiable evidence: chondrite meteorites and current star and planet formation elsewhere around that universe.
God, by definition, is omniscient. God should have known the order in which solar systems are created before he wrote his word down. God is either not omniscient, and therefore not a god, or god lied, and his word, the bible, is therefore fiction and any biblical claims that god is god is also fiction.
God disproven.
2007-12-08 17:49:18
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answered by Muffie 5
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You cannot prove something does not exist. I can't prove unicorns don't exist, but I am pretty sure they don't.
I can only speak for myself when I say that I am pretty well educated when it comes to the Bible and religion. I studied Theology at a Catholic University. And I would wager that I am probably better versed when it comes to the Bible then most of the people around here who throw out Bible verses as proof of God's existence.
I know quite a bit about science as well and the scientific method. If you understood that, you wouldn't be demanding that atheists prove God doesn't exist.
But I can prove that the earth is more than 6,000 years old. And I can prove that the Bible is full of contradictions. I can prove that the Bible was compiled by people with control and greed in mind. And I can prove evolution. Those things exist.
So, it's best not to generalize.
2007-12-08 17:27:33
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answered by Trina™ 6
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Oh, you irrational little darling.
What a chaotic world this would be if the burden of proof rested upon the doubter. After all, you can't DISPROVE the existence of an invisible pink leprechaun in your left nostril, therefore she must exist, right? This line of "reasoning" is ridiculous.
Atheists don't "know" the 2,000 year old narcotics induced ranting of goatherders because books including talking donkeys simply don't add to a rational conversation.
When you have proof of an invisible sky deity zapping the universe into existence, or of fantastical cloud palaces where fat cherubs strum harps, I will gladly believe.
2007-12-09 01:59:51
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answered by Anonymous
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There is no reason to believe in anything for which there is no evidence. You may know science from a practical point of view, but you know nothing about it from a theoretical point of view: the fundamental principle (provable) is that the usefulness (i.e., predictive power) of any theory derives exclusively from its refutability. It immediately follows as a corollary that an irrefutable theory can predict nothing: it is useless. Since all theories of god are irrefutable (you cannot show that some god was not involved), they are worthless.
For more specific discussion of the existence (or not) of god, see:
2007-12-08 17:32:13
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answered by Anonymous
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Why do those with ears deny different human beings with ears and the atrocities dedicated by way of them? those with ears are responsible for the deaths of a hundred million human beings interior the previous century. Why do those with ears deny that Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, and many different additionally had ears? Oh, wait. it is splendid. Correlation would not mean causation. bypass take a info classification, hon, and attempt returned. Alicia - "Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, etc killed interior the call of politics and communism and because they have been dictators. Atheism and communism at the instant are not a similar element. Why is this so complicated for some theists to appreciate?" truthfully, Communism is in simple terms an economic form coping with the distribution of assets. Stalin and Pol Pot killed tens of millions of human beings because of the fact they have been brutal, authoritarian dictator assholes. Their being Communist became as beside the point as their being atheist. they might in simple terms as truthfully have been genocidal Capitalist dictators.
2016-11-14 03:54:16
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answered by ? 4
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Well, no one really knows that the law of gravity is 100% correct. And sure, atheists don't know that there is no God 100%.
However, you'd probably think someone is completely crazy for holding the belief that the theory of gravity doesn't exist, so why is it any different than coming across someone that holds the belief that there is a God to be true?
2007-12-08 17:23:06
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answered by Anonymous
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I however, am different.
I believe in many Gods, I don't believe in the Christian God.
As a younger kid, about 14, I was getting into the whole 'search the world' thing which every kid does at some point. I tried going to youth group/church and got nowhere but boredom. The priests would preach things and be great, but it'd be boring. I tried praying to the Christian God, and was always ignored, nothing ever happened to help me out.
Then I tried praying to other Gods, Osiris, Anubis... and things would happen. They don't always happen quickly, but I've had occasions where I ask for things and help can come within minutes. So I believe in Gods, just not the Christian God.
2007-12-08 17:22:57
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answered by winds_of_justice 4
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NO! you are the one making the claim there is a god, in fact you have just said many gods. YOU prove the existance of any of those gods and most atheists will gladly join your little group. it is impossible to prove a negative we cannot prove something does not exist simply because there has never been proof that it did exist. Sort of like unicorns and leprechauns
2007-12-08 17:29:03
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answered by Anonymous
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I think there is dishonesty with oneself in religion. I think actually finding God's reality, if you believe He exist, should be your only purpose and not holding on to a belief. If you really loved God, you'd want to be with Him and know Him directly. In order to do that, belief has to go, since God and Truth is in the here and now.
Belief is in the past along with the rest of your mind. You, the soul, is beyond everything.
2007-12-08 17:32:06
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answered by Neomaxizoomedweebie 3
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