Jesus account on lucifer?

Question

I heard there's an account by Jesus Christ himself in which he claims to be a witness of the event in which Lucifer was expelled from heaven. Which passage is this?, could you post it or something?. It seems interesting.

Answer 1

Ezekiel 28
Isaiah 14

GOD bless

Answer 2

Not exactly.
"Lucifer" is found in the book of Isaiah, where it refers to the king of Babylon. Jerome translated the phrase "light bearer" as "lucifer," and Medieval readers mistook it for a proper name.

In the New Testament Jesus sent out his disciples on a mission. When they returned, Jesus said "I saw adversity fall from the sky like a lightning bolt." The word "adversity" in Hebrew is "satan." So, people usually read it as "I saw satan fall from heaven..."

The Bible really doesn't describe a fallen angel named "Lucifer" who cast out of heaven after rebelling against God. The only book of the Bible that even remotely describes something like that is Revelation, where it is accompanied by all kinds of mythological symbolism.

Answer 3

Jocko_ho gave a pretty good description of the passage. Note that *most* translations translate this as "Satan" - and I, for one, tend to favor the skills of well-regarded bible translators over that of an unknown individual. Compare different translations of the specific verse here
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=10&verse=17&end_verse=19&version=49&context=context
Note, however, that there is dissension in the meaning of this verse. Was Jesus speaking of
the past, ("I saw"), which could extend to the beginning of creation
the present/recent past ("I was watching")
or the future ("I saw" in the sense "I saw in a vision")

The 3rd interpretation has support primarily because a similar event occurs in Revelation, and the vision of Revelation including this event is one which happens *after* the death and resurrection of Jesus (and, thus, after his statement to the apostles).
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=73&chapter=12&verse=9&version=49&context=verse

Jim, http://www.jimpettis.com/wheel/

Answer 4

"Lucifer is Jesus Christ's brother. Fact." really? how do you know? seriously curious cause i have never heard that before.


i remember that when Jesus was praying the garden before he was set up for the crucifiction the S guy tempted him and showed him hell.

Answer 5

Lucifer is Jesus Christ's brother. Fact.

Answer 6

Well, Jesus is God, so of COURSE he was there! lol

Isaish 14:12-15 and Ezekiel 28:11-17;
Also, Ephesians 2:2; 6:11-12; John 8:44; Luke 10:17-20 are also applicable)

Isa 14:12-15 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! v13 You said in your heart,
“I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. v14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” v15 But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit."

Eze 28:11- 17 The word of the LORD came to me: v12 “Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: “ ‘You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
v13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire,turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. v14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. v15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. v16 Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. v17 Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; I made a spectacle of you before kings."

Jhn 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Luk 10:17-20The seventy‑two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.” v18 He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. v19 I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. v20 However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”

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For Commentaries on these Passages/verses you can check out:
http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/
http://www.biblegateway.com/
http://blueletterbible.org/search.html

*edit* LittleHawk: yeah the belzebot is wrong. Jesus and Satan are NOT brothers. There is no scriptural support for that. That theory is incorrect. Jesus is the Uncreated Eternal God, Satan is a Created Angel who wanted to be God, thus, WHY he was thrown out of Heaven. ♥