Hello people, what do you make of this, as I'm confused....?

Question

Why is Christmas celebrated as the birth of Jesus when in fact, the Christmas period was a Roman celebration, and even in the Bible, Jesus' date of birth is unknown...
So!
Enlighten me!

Oh, 'royal racer', by your picture I'm assuming you're religious, and you can't even think of an answer, because it contradicts your beliefs...
HAHA

Bibliophile, I don't really see how your question relates to mine, CHRISTMAS IS NOT THE DATE OF JESUS' BIRTH!
And to clear things up I do not worship a tree, presents, or a manger, and don't agree with the commercialism of Christmas..That reply made no sense.

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Ok, I don't need people to tell me how Christmas originated, as I included it in my bloody question..


But to the people who were smart enough to understand and answer my question with their opinions and theories, thank you!

Answer 1

Right. Jesus's actual birth, nobody knows, but they figure it was around the Spring equinox. Since the pagans the Church wanted to convert already had a winter celebration, they used that date to celebrate Jesus's birth.

Christmas was never meant to BE the exact date Jesus was born. It was just a celebratory mass to remember His birth.

They figured, since these pagans are already celebrating on 12/25, why not make the Church more appealing by making this a religious holiday too.

It's all about marketing, baby.... :)

Answer 2

I`m more towards the pagan theory. I`m no way religious so it`s hard to comment.
However i heard a few years ago that someone had worked out the date of jesus`s birth. And if i remember it was no where near the end of the year. But i cant remember the time they said. On the other hand how the hell did they work it out?.
Maybe it was just the Roman power and the way that era shaped alot of today.
It`s a very interesting question, looking forward to some of the ideas.

Answer 3

Because in an effort to Christianise Rome, the ancient celebration of Saturnalia was remaned "Christmas" and the benign traditions of feasting and gift-giving were kept while all connections to the Roman God Saturn were abandoned in favour of Jesus.

I had a "best answer" about Saturnalia about eight weeks or so ago. Check it out. If you want to know more on the Pagan connections to Christmas, Wikipaedia has a decent article, but take the unsourced statements with a grain of salt. Regardless, I'm sure you would be surprised at how many of today's "Christmas" traditions were actually of Pagan origin. Easter is even more obviously Pagan in origin -- think about it, what the hell to eggs and rabbits, symbols long associated with fertility and sex and giving birth, have to do with the death of a Jewish man on the cross?

Answer 4

I think that Constantine was responsible for the political move of celebrating the birth of Christ at the same time as the winter solstice to pull the pagans and Christians together politically. In a letter written by Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar regarding Jesus, Jesus tells Pontius Pilate that, "I was born the same day on which Augustus Caesar gave peace to the Roman world." I have not been able to find out the exact day historically that this happened. Hope this helped a little and if you find out the date, let me know. Otherwise, evidence points to springtime as the time of His birth.

Answer 5

It was a pagan celebration to celebrate the start of winter..Christianity took the holiday to celebrate the birth of Christ even though it wasn't his birthday

Answer 6

Why are you confused ?
Have you not worked out yet that traditions of men are always put first by Christian religions that the word of God ,the bible ?
Are these not the very hypocrites that Jesus talked about ?
Matthew 24:23,24

Answer 7

Jesus’ Controversial Birth only click on the link if you have an open mind and need some answers

http://www.thetruejesus.org/jesus/jesus_birth.htm

Love & Blessings
Milly

Answer 8

Early Christians had to endure the pagan Winter Solstice celebrations much like I have to endure Halloween today.

Instead of not participating, they did, just like many well meaning Christians try to do today and sanitized Halloween, and Christianized a pagan festival.

Answer 9

It's Number 1 in the God-man Manual.

1. All God-men shall be born on Winter (Northern Hemisphere) Solstice.
2. All God-men will die Violently.
3. All God-men shall have 12 close friends.
And so on ...

Answer 10

It all begins with Nimrod.

THE Christmas spirit is not Christian, because it did not originate with Christ. It predated the Christian era by many centuries. Shortly after the Flood the spirit and the whole celebration of Christmas had its beginning. It began with Nimrod, grandson of Ham the son of Noah, a wicked, ruthless dictator, responsible for the great organized worldly apostasy from God that continues to this day. In contempt for God and all decency Nimrod married his own mother, Semiramis. After his untimely death, his mother-wife, Semiramis, taught the lie that her husband-son was a spirit god. She claimed a full-grown evergreen tree sprang overnight from a dead tree stump, which symbolized the springing forth to new life of the dead Nimrod. She taught that on the anniversary of his birth, which was December 25, Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts upon it. The historian, Professor Hislop, says: “Now the Yule Log is the dead stock of Nimrod, deified as the sun-god, but cut down by his enemies; the Christmas-tree is Nimrod redivivus—the slain god come to life again.

FROM PAGAN SATURNALIA TO “CHRISTIAN” CHRISTMAS

How, then, did these pagan customs become a part of the greatest “Christian” holiday, Christmas? That first-century Christians did not celebrate Christmas is borne out by early “Christian” writers. The Catholic Encyclopedia makes the following admission: “Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the Church. Irenaeus and Tertullian omit it from their list of feasts.” When apostate Christians began to fall away to pagan practices, Tertullian complained: “By us, who are strangers to Sabbaths, and new moons and festivals, once acceptable to God, the Saturnalia [and other pagan feasts] are now frequented, gifts are carried to and fro, . . . and sports and banquets are celebrated with uproar.”—Gal. 4:10, 11; Col. 2:8.

In an effort to gain pagan converts the Roman Catholic clergy in the fourth century after Christ took in this pagan Saturnalia on December 25 and sponsored it as the “mass of Christ” or “Christ-mass.” Christmas, therefore, is nothing more than a carbon copy of the pagan Saturnalia. This is generally admitted by historical and religious scholars. Says a world history, On the Road to Civilization, page 164: “The feast of Saturn, the Saturnalia, was a winter festival which lasted a week beginning on the twenty-fifth day of December, and was celebrated with dancing, the exchanging of gifts, and the burning of candles. The Saturnalia was later taken over by the Christians as their Christmas, and given a new significance.”