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11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, 12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,

13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

14 who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.
15 Speak these things, exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you.Titus 2:11-15

2007-12-08 01:09:33 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

21 answers

Isaiah 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

God claims to be the redeemer….one and the same….Which is, which was and which is to come


Revelation 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

I John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are One.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Jude 1:25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.


Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;


Isaiah 47:4 As for our redeemer, the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel.

Isaiah 48:17 Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.


Isaiah 49:26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.




Isaiah 54:8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.


Isaiah 63:16 Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting.

Psalm 106:21 They forgat God their saviour, which had done great things in Egypt;


Isaiah 43:3 For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.


Isaiah 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.

Hosea 13:4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

Luke 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.


1 Timothy 4:10 …before the world began…
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.2 Timothy 1 8Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God; 9Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace,

which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

10But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

Titus 2:10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.


Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,

2007-12-10 08:13:06 · answer #1 · answered by ' 4 · 1 0

Somone quoted Exodus 3:14 where God is supposed to have told Moses that his name is "I AM THAT I AM." Actually there is some real doubt that this was the answer as Moses may have understood it.

The NIV translation gives it as "I am who I am" but in the footnotes gives an alternate translation of "I will be what I will be." There is a good reason why the NIV gives this footnote. In the Hebrew the verb is in the future tense ("I will be") and not the present tense ("I am").

So if that is true then it is highly unlikely that Jesus was really identifying with the name "I AM" in John 8:58.

Actually Jesus may have simply been acknowledging that he knew of his own personal pre-existence before the time of Abraham. Perhaps the entity he called "the Father" had revealed this to him. In any case Jesus seems to be fairly clear in differentiating between himself and "the Father" whom he also said did the works (miracles).

It seems fairly clear from history that the original Jewish Christians who included the very flesh and blood family of Jesus did not consider him to be God, but rather a great prophet like Moses. Perhaps he was indeed a great prophet who was overshadowed by this being he called the Father.

Actually reading the New Testament in that light can be quite revealing. For example from John 14:8-11:

8 Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."

9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.

(end quote)

Jesus asks if they don't believe that "the Father is in me." Sounds very much to me like the Father had literally come into Jesus and overshadowed him. Jesus acknowledges that this being is indeed the one who does the "work" of the miracles.

So no, I don't believe that "Jesus" and "God" are synonyms meanings the same thing exactly.

lwk

2007-12-08 06:31:32 · answer #2 · answered by lwk2431 3 · 0 0

The Bible's position is clear. Not only is Almighty God, Jehovah, a personality separate from Jesus but He is at all times his superior. Jesus is always presented as separate and lesser, a humble servant of God. That is why the Bible plainly says that "the head of the Christ is God" in the same way that "the head of every man is the Christ." (1 Corinthians 11:3) And this is why Jesus himself said: "The Father is greater than I."—John 14:28, RS, Catholic edition. The fact is that Jesus is not God and never claimed to be. This is being recognized by an increasing number of scholars. As the Rylands Bulletin states: "The fact has to be faced that New Testament research over, say, the last thirty or forty years has been leading an increasing number of reputable New Testament scholars to the conclusion that Jesus . . . certainly never believed himself to be God." The Bulletin also says of first-century Christians: "When, therefore, they assigned [Jesus] such honorific titles as Christ, Son of man, Son of God and Lord, these were ways of saying not that he was God, but that he did God's work." Thus, even some religious scholars admit that the idea of Jesus' being God opposes the entire testimony of the Bible. There, God is always the superior, and Jesus is the subordinate servant.

2016-05-22 03:51:12 · answer #3 · answered by laurel 3 · 0 0

Yes the Bible tell us over and over that Jesus is God.
I know Jesus Is the Father
Jesus Is the Son
Jesus Is the Holy Ghost
All these are ONE
multiple titles do not make multiple persons!

Even the angel announcing the birth of the Christ said so
Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.

there is only one Lord

Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Father in creation
Son in redemption
Holy Ghost in salvation

He is also Prince of peace, counselor, Lord, Provider, the Lily of the Valley, Rose of Sharon, Lamb of God, Lion of Judah... and the list goes on .... do these titles also give God more persons, God Forbid!

I could go on and on about the Oneness of God but I am short of time and there are some who have already shared thos too, Praise God!

2007-12-10 09:18:47 · answer #4 · answered by Noble Angel 6 · 0 0

Yes, as that scripture shows. However, those who hate the Trinity doctrine argue that it should read differently. The notorious Jehovah's Witness Bible, the New World Translation, renders it differently: '...manifestation of the great God and of [the] Savior of us, Christ Jesus...' thus making a separation between God and Christ. This, however, is not in the Greek, as even their own Kingdom Interlinear shows.

Likewise with 2 Peter 1:1 - '...To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.' But the NWT inserts the word [the] between God and Savior! Again, the Greek does not allow this but try telling that to JWs.

The evidence is there but antagonists will corrupt it and go to their graves denying the Bible teaches that Jesus is the same God as the Father.

2007-12-08 01:26:19 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

The bible in inconsistent on that point. Some verses indicate that he is, while other verses make it look like he wasn't. You've posted a verse that claims that Jesus is God. However, there are verses where Jesus states that the Father is greater than he is. So, how can he be equal to God when God is greater than him? He also says that the Father knows when the second coming will take place, but Jesus does not.

Its a bit screwy.

2007-12-08 01:21:43 · answer #6 · answered by whatif 1 · 1 2

RS reads: “Awaiting our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.” (Similar wording is found in NE, TEV, JB.) However, NW reads: “while we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of the Savior of us, Christ Jesus.” (NAB has a similar rendering.)

Which translation agrees with Titus 1:4, which refers to “God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior”? Although the Scriptures also refer to God as being a Savior, this text clearly differentiates between him and Christ Jesus, the one through whom God provides salvation.

Some argue that Titus 2:13 indicates that Christ is both God and Savior. Interestingly, RS, NE, TEV, JB render Titus 2:13 in a way that might be construed as allowing for that view, but they do not follow the same rule in their translation of 2 Thessalonians 1:12. Henry Alford, in The Greek Testament, states: “I would submit that [a rendering that clearly differentiates God and Christ, at Titus 2:13] satisfies all the grammatical requirements of the sentence: that it is both structurally and contextually more probable, and more agreeable to the Apostle’s way of writing.”—(Boston, 1877), Vol. III, p. 421.

2007-12-08 01:19:16 · answer #7 · answered by papa G 6 · 0 2

NO!!!.. Habakkuk 1:12 says "Are you not from long ago, O Jehovah? O my God, my Holy One, you do not die. O Jehovah, for a judgment you have set it; and, O Rock, for a reproving you have founded it. Notice that it says O my God, my Holy One, YOU do not die. We all know that Jesus died for our sins and was raised up from the dead. If he were God, who raised him up from the dead?. God, the Father of Jesus does not die.
John 16: 2-4 says ( and this is Jesus speaking to his disciples.) " Men will expel YOU from the synagogue. In fact, the hour is coming when everyone that kills YOU will imagine he has rendered a sacred service to God. 3 But they will do these things because they have not come to know either the Father or me. 4 Nevertheless, I have spoken these things to YOU that, when the hour for them arrives, YOU may remember I told them to YOU. Take a closer look at verse 3, it says "THEY WILL DO THESE THINGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT COME TO KNOW EITHER THE FATHER OR ME. TWO DISTINCT PEOPLE NOT ONE.
Read John chapters 14 -17 if you truly would like to know if God and Jesus are the same or if they are two separate individuals.

2007-12-08 05:50:22 · answer #8 · answered by Joan B 2 · 0 1

No, nowhere in the Bible does Jesus ever claim that he is God or the son of God, Other's claimed he was but he never said it himself. 'I am as you say' was his words i believe. Thsi is soemthing which Christians today believe in. The trinity is not the the Bible either.
How can God be Man? or lord and god be 2 different things, does that make sense. Why would God need to kill himself on a cross to forgive people's sins? does that makes sense?

2007-12-08 04:15:06 · answer #9 · answered by Peace Missile 3 · 1 1

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the God above all others Deut.10:17;

Satan is god of this world that ends, it gives Satan a time limit from Eden:

2Cor.4:3,4;
4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Matt.4:1-11;
Satan wants to be worshiped. 2Cor.11:14; 1Pet.5:8; He was the cherub angel anointed over Eden Eze.28:13-15; to turn rebel, resist God and deceive Eve Gen.3:1-5; She knew not to touch the tree, die is opposite life, now Satan has caused death to every offspring of Adam John 8:44; Heb.2:9,14,16; Jesus is our Savior to 1Cor.15:22-28,51-53; end the enemy death and the one who caused it that will be god of this world right at 6130 years from Eden [ now is 6073 ].

Will Jesus be a Lord God of the Most High LORD God for 1000 years?

Heb.1:1-13; 12:2; Matt.22:42-44; Psm.110:1; Mark 16:19; Acts 2:27-35; Acts 7:55,56; Rom.8:34; Col.3:1; 1Pet.3:22; Jesus at God's right hand until the enemies of the heavenly are cast down [ Dan.12:1-13; Michael in the time of the end, Rev.12:3,4,6-11,12; Michael, The WORD and Satan in the time of the end Matt.3:16 [ Jesus anointed by God ]; Matt.6:9-13 [ Jesus gives the Lord's prayer ]; 13:37-39 [ Jesus gives the SOWER OF THE WORD in the time of the end ]; 16:16 [ Jesus is Son of God ]; 22:37-40 [ Jesus gives 1st & great commandment to love God with whole strength and neighbor too! ]; 24:3,7,14,15,21,22,36-39 [ the WORD in the time of the end ]; 25:31-34 [ the sheep from the goat in the time of the end ]; 28:18 [ ALL POWER IS GIVEN JESUS OVER HEAVEN AND EARTH BY his LORD God and Father to be the savior of the world so compare him as Lord God 1000 years Isa.9:6,7; to Satan as god from Eden in the world that ends, all died from Adam, the kingdoms of this world, how much did they help #1 to #7 & in 8th, is 2nd coming of Jesus, from 3560 years ago when Moses was at Exodus, at to the bible, who has been for the Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob Exo6:3; 17:15; Judges 6:24; Psm.68:4; 83:18; Isa.12:2; 26:4; John 17:1-26;
Jesus gives us all his Father, Jesus saves all to be with his Father, he takes us through the kingdom of the heavens Rev.3:12; Heb.12:22-24; to the kingdom of God, where God is all in all.

2007-12-08 01:52:01 · answer #10 · answered by jeni 7 · 0 0

The bible repeatedly states that Jesus is 'son of god'. That has been interpreted in many ways over the centuries. There is no explicit statement in the bible (that I am aware of - including your quote) that state that Jesus is god. There may be many bits of the bible that loony mid-western yanks interpret as meaning that jesus is god. But then they interpret bombing other countries as being the way towards peace. :) Beware of stupid people who have a detailed knowledge of facts.

2007-12-08 08:22:16 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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