17 Million British Humanists, why are atheists not better represented?

Question

B_liar brought back faith schools and called then "academies".
Religious wackos teach creationilism, Islamic extremists physically threaten British people on British streets. When will the voice of secular humanism be heard?



http://www.humanism.org.uk/site/cms/newsarticleview.asp?article=2288

za Creationism is being taught in the UK and on an increasing scale. Academies are often religious and the BHA have details on them. I think we should have specifically organised non religious schools with religion left to home study. Religion is anti scientific and the very oposite of education

Nameless one, B_liar encouraged faith schools and the BHA will verify this. sure I am on a soapbox , so are you

http://www.humanism.org.uk/site/cms/

zs, This is from the BHA website and it is what I mean by "bringing back faith schools"

"The push for a so called Hindu school in Harrow by the I Foundation has been paraded as the government's commitment to faith schools for all communities"

Answer 1

We could use a Keith Porteous Wood here in the states. Barry Lynn is trying, but more fires are being started.

I saw a YouTube video from a student who attended one of Peter Vardy's schools, and he described it as a nightmare of Christian fundamentalism in the UK.

Answer 2

True good question

There are NO specifically athiest schools

What many people do not realise is that all voluntary aided faith schools are almost entirely paid for out of public money. Faith organisations contribute nothing at all towards the running of their schools and, till recently, only 10% of capital costs. The Government will now pay 100% of rebuilding/refurbishing costs of faith schools as part of its Building Schools for the Future programme.

Creationism IS coming into UK "education" see the BHA and the link below

Answer 3

Academies are a way of bringing back faith schools, Blair being a religious wacko wanted this that is why he tricked them onto the British people

Answer 4

For a relationship between a Rationalist Atheist and a Humanist Atheist to artwork there'll be many stuff to contemplate. first and maximum perfect, could the youngsters be raised Rational, Humanist, or the two? In maximum helpful marriages between human beings of diverse ideals, all vacations from the two mothers and dads are celebrated. Are there particular circumstances regarding kin that would desire to be addressed? those form of marriages are in many cases helpful, yet they are from time to time very complicated. yet then, it fairly is between the excuses why you're Atheists, stunning? (you are able to run yet you won't be able to conceal!)

Answer 5

Represented where? I've never seen creationism in any of the schools I've taught in, in three continents.

Even the academy you probably refer to teaches proper science. If they didn't they would be strongly censored by the DFES. They do offer the chance to consider 'alternative ways of looking at things' (a move I support in theory, even though I reject creationism).

What exactly do you propose to redress the balance as you see it?

Later.
Thank you for responding in detail. You say that 'Creationism is being taught in the UK and on an increasing scale'. I'd love to know what the evicence is for that. The National Curriculum requires 'proper 'science to be taught, and the inspection system monitors that. If you say that Creationism is increasingly taught, then I suppose I must raise my hand and admit to having done it myself. As an educator I feel it is my duty to show pupils a picture rather wider than that in the textbooks, and raise their awareness of the way some people think, and the reasons for it. Your assertion that 'Academies are often religious' is true. And the academy I mentioned above is Emmanuel in Gateshead - an overtly Christian school and (significantly) a very popular one with local parents, of whom only a minority are 'active' Christians. The popularity comes from the dedication of the staff, many of whom are not Christians, and the quality of the education provided, confirmed by their independent inspection. Incidentally they are not a 'faith' school - that is a school which requires adherence to, or at least acceptance of, a single faith, in the way that some Muslim schools do. 'BHA have details on them' - you make it sound as though they are undermining the government and society, and eat babies for their dinner. In dismissing 'religious schools' you are also dismissing all the historic schools in the UK which enjoy an unparallelled reputation of excellence throughout the world. They are all religious foundations, as are most of the colleges at Oxford and Cambridge.

As for 'Religion is anti scientific and the very oposite of education' - how does one even begin to respond to this overt propaganda? Much science was done by Christians, and seen as completely consistent with faith. Even Galileo, often cited in the 'science is opposed to religion' debate, remained an unwavering Christian for all his life. Mendel was a monk. Kepler (I think it was) coined the phrase 'Two Books' - the idea that God wrote two books, the Bible (obviously you don't agree with that, well OK) and the book of Nature. The entrance to the old Cavendish laboratory in Cambridge (where much world class science was and is still being done) had over the entrance door a quotation from Psalm 111, placed there by the first Cavendish professor oh physics at the university, James Clerk Maxwell. If you have any scientific knowledge you will know that he is one of the great scientists of the 19th century, responsible for a whole host of things, one the mathematical description of gases known as the Maxwell distribution (or sometimes Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution), and another the taking of the very first colour photograph in (I think) 1865. You may not know that when the Cavendish moved to larger premises in 1973 it was proposed that the inscription should be on the new buildings as well. It was approved by the then professor, Brian Pippard, and is there now, in English. 'Great are the works of the Lord'.

Not only is faith consistent with science, the physics laboratory in Cambridge specifically unites them.

Answer 6

I fear you will only hear the voice of secularism when the bold children of religious faiths start throwing their toys out of the pram ie. when they begin making hardline demands on the beliefs of the secular population.
I genuinely hope that humanists have a strong resolve when this occurs, because there is nothing more dangerously Godless than one who is acting in the name of God.

Answer 7

Aside from the nutjob Muslims taking advantage of the UK's spinelessness, the whole "religion thing" isn't as big of a problem in the UK as it is in the US.

At least you don't have an enormous, state of the art creationist museum in the UK.

Answer 8

I think it's because most people have inherited a society that is essentially free from religious intolerance and persecution, and it's easy to take that for granted and not notice when theists start chipping away at it.

Answer 9

it is because the govermant use the christian fairy tale to try and run the country when thay no most people do not go to church like why have we got bishops in the house of lord puting there fairy tale laws into govermant laws it time the church stoped trying to tell people what to do and stay out of the govermant

Answer 10

people really do like to cling to the idea of an afterlife