Cant believe the pope?

Question

Can anyone in the 21st century believe in the pope any more?

Here is a mortal man, who claims to be the living represenatative of god the creator on earth.

What an arrogant rude bastard!

Now after his church has scared the pants off catholics for centuries telling them when they die they are going to burn in hell for their sins, (unless living family members pay money for redemption and that will cut down the time in purgatory), as the representative of god on earth now the pope has the power to grant amnesty to the souls of the dead !!

In a real world this person who be carted off and seen as the fraud and conman he and his church are.

If evil exists its living in the vatican, and I for one would love to be there when god arrived so I could see the look on Ratzinger's face or whatever his name is and had to explain the millions of lives his (and many other religions) have taken in gods name.

Look elsewhere for god. God isnt at the vatican.

What do you think?

Answer 1

...he's human, to be human is to err!!!

Answer 2

You are so right!!!!!!!! How can the catholic church after so many decades teach the false teaching of purgatory telling their followers that they have to pay money to shorten the time loved ones stay there and then later change the doctrine? Sign of a cult! That's not just the only sign but there are many revealing it's falseness. God's Laws never change and neither does God. He is the same yesturday, today and forever. He is not going to all of he sudden change the way people spend there after life. I can't believe people are that blind to believe these false teachers.

Answer 3

"now the pope has the power to grant amnesty to the souls of the dead"

Christ have Peter the power to forgive. The pope is Peter's successor. You are filled with so many misunderstandings about the pope. Where did all the uninformed hostility come from?

Answer 4

If you are not Catholic, and from your words I don't think you are, then you are certainly not compelled to "believe" the Pope (more properly, we respect him and his position). Why such anger, then? I see no point for anyone to post such a diatribe against a man who has zero influence on either your faith or your life. You don't like him? Fine. No one says you have to. Ignore him. I'm not about to get defensive and argue against your misconceptions, because you seem to be looking for agreement and not dialogue. I do hope you feel better having gotten it off your chest, though. May peace be with you.

Answer 5

I also have trouble with the idea of one man being God/dess' representative on earth. It smacks of the anti, if you ask me, and I wouldn't be surprised if that is where the anti comes from.

But...
I love my Catholic brothers and sisters. I don't understand some of their beliefs and practices, but I love them.

Answer 6

Any particular reason why you are attacking the Catholics? They are our brother's and sister's in Christ. Yes there have been good and bad popes just like everything else in life. As to preaching Hell that is just preaching the truth. Do I think the pope is God's representative on Earth? No. Do I think he is a good man and a Christian? From what I have seen I would say yes.

Answer 7

You don't know what your talking about. God allowed humans to set up his chuch with is guidence and yes because it is a man made structural system means that it can't possibly be 100% perfect. GOD IS IN THE VATICAN!

Answer 8

The pope is NOT God nor is he a representative of any kind sent from God. He IS a mortal man, but unfortunately, has many people brainwashed and mezmorized - for what reason they're fascinated by him, I have no clue. One thing is for sure: he is an antichrist! The Vatican is nothing more than the head of a rich empire, stealing millions of dollars per year - probably more - from people, giving people the false impression that they're using the money to 'help the poor and needy'. Well, if you take a good look at the Vatican, THAT is where all the money is going - NOT to the poor and needy as they claim. It's nothing more than a anti-God religion/cult. What they abide by is NOT the bible, but their own rituals, rules and regulations. There are passages in the bible that prove that they defy God's word. See below.

1 Timothy 4:1-4 - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 - Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 - Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth, 4 - For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving.

The above verses reference their rituals to a tee: lent (abstaining from meat, which is unbiblical, but they have made it a part of their religion, claiming it's biblical) and abstaining from marriage. It's a personal choice if one chooses not to marry - that's NOT unbiblical to 'choose' not to marry, but to make it a religious ritual, claiming it's from God, is wrong - and they have done that, not to mention that their teachings are false doctrines and, as the above verse says, 'doctrines of devils' meaning 'lies' and 'hypocrisy'.

Answer 9

We need to understand that hierarchical jurisdiction traces all the way back to the "mark" of Cain.

Receiving authority to govern requires taking an oath which binds the initiate to a code of rights and responsibilities. Interestingly, our word "oath" is cognate with the Hebrew (owth), which is the word translated "mark" at Genesis 4:15, "the Sovereign set a MARK upon Cain." Knowing this we may accurately say "YHWH put Cain under oath," an oath visibly represented by the various insignia governments display. The mark, then, stands for a covenant between YHWH and Cain. It is NOT the all-encompassing sort of covenant which YHWH struck with the humbly obedient Abraham - "And I will establish my covenant between Me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a Sovereign unto thee, and to thy seed after thee" (Gen.17:7-8).

Cain's unwillingness to obey the letter of Yahweh's commandments made him unfit for intimacy with the Divine. In Cain's own words, "from Thy face shall I be hid." This EXILE covenant was and is strictly limited to assuring YHWH's vengeance against anyone who would threaten Cain's life. But in matters of wisdom, correction, instruction in righteousness, Cain was on his own. He was also on his own if he should try to attack the peaceful.

Scripture tells us there have been four "world-ruling" empires since YHWH placed the mark upon Cain to rule over evil. These four empires are Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome. Now, what could be more just (righteous) than to have evil ruling evil? That is Cain's (now Rome's) purpose, to rule souls who walk "outside the presence of the Sovereign."

The Roman Pontiff knows this all too well, and those filling that office often give us clues, clues like this:

"The mark of Cain is stamped upon our foreheads. Across the centuries our brother Abel has lain in blood which we drew, and shed tears we caused by forgetting Thy love." - Pope John XXIII, A Prayer (1960), cited in Vicars of Christ: The Darkness of the Papacy

If one rejects direct rule by YHWH through His son Yahshua, he or she WILL be ruled by Rome. Just look around you. Look! And Rome does rule both the secular and (false) religious world with her unlimited treasury, the intellectual genius of the Society of Jesuits, and with the pouncing military might of the U.S.

U.S./Rome's purpose is also FORCE. As the vice closes on populations everywhere to conform to this worldly beast system, souls are going to venture out and seek His face. And that's where you and I come in - to help our misguided brothers and sisters in the Catholic faith to see it - that they may be immersed into His kingdom and be saved.

Think back to our ancestors in Egypt (Babylon). They endured some pretty harsh discipline (slavery) for their disobedience, didn't they? Some 460 years if I recall correctly. Well, eventually, they CRIED OUT in repentance and YHWH delivered them. So Rome, like Babylon, Medo-Persia and Greece, was put in place by YHWH under the Cain covenant (owth, mark, sign) as a vehicle to rule over evil as well as to test His people. Nothing more. He wants to see who is really loyal and true. It's no different than the U.S. armed forces training their soldiers for battle. They will be tested. And when the time arises, many soldiers leave their families and belongings behind to put their life on the line.

If one chooses the Kingdom of Righteousness, he or she also must be prepared to DIE for it. And Messiah duly warns us in the Scriptures that we will be brought before the councils of men to be tested, and eventually killed by this beast for not obeying her demoniacal, Church-State edicts and encyclicals. "The hour is coming when everyone who kills you shall think they are rendering service to Elohim. And this they shall do to you because they did not know the Father, nor Me" (Yohanan [John] 16). And Yahshua showed us the way. The egg was on their faces, man. They (Rome) murdered Him according to "their laws!" Little did they know by doing so, He birthed for us a Kingdom. A Government!

Yahshua ha Mashiach was and is the ultimate CHAMP and EXAMPLE. He was victorious and so can we be through Him who OVERCAME THE WORLD.

HalleluYah! Praise Yahweh!

Pope's Child: Here is the mission of your Magisterium, the Superior General:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/blackpope.htm

Unhappily, Pope's Child. Unhappily.

Answer 10

Do not confuse the sin of men for the holiness of the church
having said that
The Pope, Bishop of Rome and Peter's successor, "is the perpetual and visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the whole company of the faithful." "For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered
In order to preserve the Church in the purity of the faith handed on by the apostles, Christ who is the Truth willed to confer on her a share in his own infallibility. By a "supernatural sense of faith" the People of God, under the guidance of the Church's living Magisterium, "unfailingly adheres to this faith."

The mission of the Magisterium is linked to the definitive nature of the covenant established by God with his people in Christ. It is this Magisterium's task to preserve God's people from deviations and defections and to guarantee them the objective possibility of professing the true faith without error. Thus, the pastoral duty of the Magisterium is aimed at seeing to it that the People of God abides in the truth that liberates. To fulfill this service, Christ endowed the Church's shepherds with the charism of infallibility in matters of faith and morals. The exercise of this charism takes several forms:

"The Roman Pontiff, head of the college of bishops, enjoys this infallibility in virtue of his office, when, as supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful - who confirms his brethren in the faith he proclaims by a definitive act a doctrine pertaining to faith or morals. . . . The infallibility promised to the Church is also present in the body of bishops when, together with Peter's successor, they exercise the supreme Magisterium," above all in an Ecumenical Council. When the Church through its supreme Magisterium proposes a doctrine "for belief as being divinely revealed,"and as the teaching of Christ, the definitions "must be adhered to with the obedience of faith." This infallibility extends as far as the deposit of divine Revelation itself.

Divine assistance is also given to the successors of the apostles, teaching in communion with the successor of Peter, and, in a particular way, to the bishop of Rome, pastor of the whole Church, when, without arriving at an infallible definition and without pronouncing in a "definitive manner," they propose in the exercise of the ordinary Magisterium a teaching that leads to better understanding of Revelation in matters of faith and morals. To this ordinary teaching the faithful "are to adhere to it with religious assent"
which, though distinct from the assent of faith, is nonetheless an extension of it.

Answer 11

I think the catholic church has been coming up with its own BS to suit its purposes for ages now. How could anyone ever follow such madness? Only if they are taught that thinking for themselves is wrong.