Is it wrong to REMOVE A PERSON WHO CONTINUES TO SIN FROM THE CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION?

Question

MANY people think that God forgives or overlooks anything, is that so? see what God says on the matter
(1 Corinthians 5:9-13) 9 In my letter I wrote YOU to quit mixing in company with fornicators, 10 not [meaning] entirely with the fornicators of this world or the greedy persons and extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, YOU would actually have to get out of the world. 11 But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man. 12 For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do YOU not judge those inside, 13 while God judges those outside? “Remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves.”

(1 Corinthians 6:9-11) 9 What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes,

(1 Corinthians 6:9-11) . . . nor men who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom. 11 And yet that is what some of YOU were. . .

(Hebrews 10:26) . . .6 For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left. . .

Answer 1

they should be removed from the christian congregation. 1 Corinthians 15 verse 33. bad associations spoil useful habits. churches allow anyone into there church. men sleeping with men. or people who are married and sleeping with someone who they are not married to. if they repent and come back to Jehovah, he is always ready to forgive in a big way. yes we are imperfect and will make mistakes that is why we always have to ask for forgiveness

Answer 2

In order to keep the Congregation clean, they must be removed, if they later are repentant & sorry for their mistakes, they can be reinstated.

Some of the offenses that could merit disfellowshipping from the Christian congregation are fornication, adultery, homosexuality, greed, extortion, thievery, lying, drunkenness, reviling, spiritism, murder, idolatry, apostasy, and the causing of divisions in the congregation.

Christians do not hold themselves aloof from people. We have normal contacts with neighbors, workmates, schoolmates, and others, and witness to them even if some are ‘fornicators, greedy persons, extortioners, or idolaters.’ Paul wrote that we cannot avoid them completely, ‘otherwise we would have to get out of the world.’ He directed that it was to be different, though, with “a brother” who lived like that: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that [has returned to such ways], not even eating with such a man.” 1 Corinthians 5:9-11; Mark 2:13-17.

In the apostle John’s writings, we find similar counsel that emphasizes how thoroughly Christians are to avoid such ones: “Everyone that pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God, If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works.” 2 John 9-11.

We can be just as sure that God’s arrangement that Christians refuse to fellowship with someone who has been expelled for unrepentant sin is a wise protection for us. “Clear away the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, according as you are free from ferment.” (1 Corinthians 5:7) By also avoiding persons who have deliberately disassociated themselves, Christians are pro... from possible critical, unappreciative, or even apostate views. Hebrews 12:15, 16.

Answer 3

for whom Jehovah loves he disciplines (Hebrews 6:12)
Paul said at 1 Corinthians 5:11, But now I am writing you to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortiioner, no even eating with such a man.

Answer 4

You know for all the above mentioned people who felt it was wrong to remove a person from the congregation & feel it is wrong because sinners need to be in church. When a Jehovah's Witness is removed from the congregation, they're still allowed to go to the Kingdom Hall for worship, just that ones as active witnesses in good standing dont have personal contact with them, i.e. fellowship with them, this would go along with what this is called, disfellowshipping.
If they werent allowed to go to the Kingdom Hall while disfellowshipped, our elders would never get to know when one was repentent to welcomed back into the congregation. So the ones who state it would be wrong to not allow such ones to go to church/kingdom hall, you're correct, but not about the Witnesses, because we do allow them to come to the Kingdom, just that we dont associate/talk to them before or after the meetings. Hope this clears some things up.

Answer 5

No it is not wrong, the scriptures tell us they MUST be removed.
It's just like leaving a rotten potato or an apple amongst the good ones; sooner or later, the rest become contaminated....so with the UNREPENTANT SINNER....the one who "keeps on" practicing sin even after being counseled about bad conduct, can corrupt the others.

One poster said that all sinners need God....true....but that sinner has to acknowlege his or her wrongdoing and make an effort to practice sin no more....not to continue on a course that is wrong and using inherited sin as a weakness.
We ALL inherited sin from Adam and Eve, but some of us refuse to practice what is wrong in spite of the inclination to do so.

Answer 6

no, it is not wrong. elders are there to guide and make clean the congregation and we must stay away from the "unclean thing". If someone commits a serious sin, they are disfellowshipped and are allowed to work their way to being reinstated. God does not forgive ANYTHING. DO YOU THINK HE WOULD FORGIVE HITLER? NO WAY!!! Hitler flat out tortured God's people (yes, JW's WERE a part of the HOlocaust, TOO people). ANyway, i hope that answers your question. : )

Answer 7

The of removing ones from the congregation is not something new, its not something JW's made up or created, this practice of removing disobedient ones, which means ones who know what God expects of them, yet willfully continues to disobey, and are not repentant, or sorry, are removed.

The ones in the congregation do make every effort to try and keep these ones in the cong. by talking to them, sharing scriptures and trying to encourage them or help them with their problems, struggles, all of us are imperfect, but when someone continues to do what is against the bible, we follow the admonition and past Bible examples on how to proceed.

(2 Thessalonians 3:6-7) . . .Now we are giving YOU orders, brothers, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, to withdraw from every brother walking disorderly and not according to the tradition YOU received from us. 7 For YOU yourselves know the way YOU ought to imitate us, because we did not behave disorderly among YOU

(2 Thessalonians 3:13-15) . . .For YOUR part, brothers, do not give up in doing right. 14 But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this one marked, stop associating with him, that he may become ashamed. 15 And yet do not be considering him as an enemy, but continue admonishing him as a brother.
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Other religions do this too, Catholic priests have been removed from their positions, expelled from the church for wrong doing as well, and im sure this is the case with other religions where people just are not applying Bible principles in their lives (24/7, not just one day a week.)

If you had a regular group at your house each week, say for a Book Group, and there was one or two people who constantly came drunk, or got drunk, or would be violent, or use bad language, just things that you didn't want the others in your group to be around, say your children, family, or friends, and after speaking with them, asking them to stop and stating your reasons, yet they continued to do them, what would you do? You would probably just ask them not to come back. You'd remove them from the group.

We do always hope those who have left or have been removed do change their ways and come back into the way of life of imitating Jesus and Jehovah, displaying those qualities of love we all strive to imitiate.

Answer 8

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Answer 9

No, it is not wrong.

Keeping a rotten tomato among good ones will ruin the lot.
(I've never seen the good tomatoes helping the rotten one become fresh again- and that's like over years of having them rot in my fridge)

It is dangerous to keep unrepentant sinners in the congregation.

Also, putting them out is like a slap that brings them to their senses. Hopefully.

Answer 10

If a person in your fellowship has been confronted about a sin and they refuse to acknowedge it is sin, and they continue to justify the sin, then they are not Christian's and should not be allowed to fellowship with the congregation until they have admitted it was sin and repented.

It is all about not condoning sin if we condone and justify then we are not Christian's if we have the holy spirit in us we can never say a sin is ok.