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On November 14, 2007 61-year old Joe Horn, of Pasadena, Texas, was watching his neighbor's house. He saw 2 men burglarzing his neighbor's house, he called 911, then he shot them both dead. The 2 burglars Miguel Dejesus & Diego Ortiz were both black illegal immigrants from Colombia. Dejesus spent 6 years in a Texas prison for drug dealing, then was deported. Obviously, he came back illegally. Ortiz was arrested by Houston police on a drug charge. I believe that both of these men brought on their deaths by their own actions. The New Black panther Party lead a demonstration where Joe Horn lives. If the 2 illegal immigrant criminals who were killed weren't black, would the demonstrators have been there? No.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_TjftnwhRk

2007-12-07 10:45:45 · 25 answers · asked by James 3 in Politics & Government Immigration

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The race card is only used by the weak, incompetent and uneducated when they have no educated response to and intelligent argument.
It's blatant misuse has generally left the therm racist meaningless to most people now.

2007-12-07 10:49:34 · answer #1 · answered by BillyBob 4 · 7 2

I think we give way too much importance to these so called parties, minority groups and civil groups. We need to shut every single media coverage on them and let them disappear slowly. An Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson wouldn't be who they are today if they did not get media coverage. I say forget them all. Illegals are illegals and should be deported.
PS: answering one of the previous poster. Black do not get harsher sentences and do commit more crimes sorry to say so. The census is wrong. unless you compare a burglary by a white man and a murder by a black or Hispanic man ... surely you would understand the harsher sentence towards the colored people wouldn't you? As far as blaming society for its view or pre judicial views of black for example ... you would be the first to admit that when you see a pitbull you will automatically call it ferocious dangerous beast, while it can very well be the sweetest pet you will ever meet. So spare us the sarcasm that I am growing tired of from both white, blacks and other races trying to justify their own. i say once again hypocrisy prevails. justification fails.

2007-12-07 12:58:22 · answer #2 · answered by caliguy_30 5 · 0 0

I was on Joe Horn’s side before, and am even moreso now.Illegal immigrant criminal victimizing honest, hardworking, and vulnerable legal immigrants? Anyone still want to spin those two miscreants as “victims”?Dear criminals - I offer a free hint: if you are not interested in getting shot, DON’T BREAK INTO HOMES, DON’T MUG, DON’T ROB STORES, DON’T ATTEMPT RAPE.Admirers, including several of his neighbors, say Horn is a hero for killing the burglars, protecting his neighborhood and sending a message to would-be criminals.
The main point...sending a message to would-be criminals
Two criminals taking the "eternal dirt nap".
Gotta love it.
THANK YOU MR. HORN.

Mr. Horn should receive an award from the community for culling the herd of these criminals, who would have likely killed him or one of their victims without so much as a thought. He probably saved future innocent life as well, given that marauding animals like these, without any challenge or consequence to their actions, and carrying burglary tools which could easily be used as weapons (screwdrivers, crow bar, etc.), would eventually kill one of their victims while robbing their house.

2007-12-07 11:11:50 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Well of course not! They're not going to protest for Hispanics unless they're black and it is the Black Panthers, right? Now what would happen if they were white and the KKK showed up? Now do you get it? Whites can't be discriminated against just because they are white! That is the way it is and has been for some time now! The race card is always a last ditch effort to get publicity and sympathizers, even though they are wrong.

2007-12-07 10:56:10 · answer #4 · answered by Ms.L.A. 6 · 3 1

Somehow, it seems to me that people who "play the race card" always seem to have a chip on their shoulders.
There is a couple who live near me - the wife is a very fat black woman and the husband is a homely short jewish man - they are obnoxious, rude, loud and quite horrible, they don't get along with anyone, have no friends, just each other - and they fight like cats and dogs, the police are always being called. Somehow they stay together, I guess it's them against the world, or at least that's the way I think they must feel. Truth is these bodies we inhabit are only temporary - our spirits have no skin color or culture, we are all the same - like little raindrops falling into the ocean.

2007-12-07 10:54:02 · answer #5 · answered by Gentle Spirit 4 · 3 1

The Black Panther leader was only there because these men were black, not because they were criminals with records or even here illegally. If these men had been Latino or even white, there would have been very little if any outcry, from any groups.
Amazing how the race card get's played when logic and reason are thrown out, and facts are ignored, ain't it?

2007-12-07 10:50:32 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I've always found that phrase "playing the race card" to be strangely telling on the entire scope of race relations in this country today....You describe a person opting to suggest a potential racial bias in sports metaphors as if this were some sort of game. This suggests you are far enough removed from the reality of the situation that you can afford a fantastical view of things. Most minority people cannot; for them, racism is a sometimes subtle, but pervasive fact of life, all day everyday. Don't misunderstand me: I have no intention of defending people doing stupid things that they have no business doing anyway. We all are (and should be) culpable for our own actions at all times. And, like you I am equally disturbed when race comes up at times when it is clearly not relevant because it impedes legitmate claims from receiving fair consideration. I am merely suggesting that your barometer for when that claim is valid will differ radically from mine based on the disparity in our life experiences.
Right now you and I live in a society where black people are disproportionately imprisoned, receive harsher sentences, and are systematically denied due process more often than any other group of people. Does this mean black people commit more crime than any other group? Well, prison census data would seem to suggest it, but National Crime Bureau statistics don't support that conclusion....(I work in law enforcement). *This is one stat I'm not completely sure of so I will qualify it by stating this at the outset: Blacks are nearly three times more likely to live below the poverty line in comparison with their white peers; more likely to be uninsured (medically), more likely to suffer malnutrition, high blood pressure/hypertension, diabetes, and have higher instances of high school dropout rates. Now, this obviously isn't the fault of any individual white guy anywhere in America, and frankly, no one is suggesting it is. But it is indicative of systemic racism; something that if you're not a minority you likely can't see to identify because your day-to-day existence is far different than theirs.Everyone who IS a minority knows exactly what it feels like, and lives with that reality everyday. (And even acknowledging that fact, WE don't want people who harm other people running around free, either.) So, when someone suggests racism may be at the core of an issue, maybe it shouldn't be necessarily dismissed out of hand, because that charge is not so much levied against a single individual, but against a society at large.
I don't know if you can understand what I'm trying to convey to you...in all honesty, this issue is far bigger than me or my ability to adequately communicate it. But if I've at least opened your eyes to the need for further dialogue on the subject, I will consider this particular communication a success. Happy Holidays.

2007-12-07 11:21:48 · answer #7 · answered by Captain S 7 · 4 0

Speaking as an African American female, I too get so very tired of the race card being played. While there are some issues & circumstances where I feel that race has definetly played a role, I don't feel that it happens as much as a lot of demonstrators proclaim. For the most part, many people bring things on themselves by their actions.

2007-12-07 10:52:41 · answer #8 · answered by mardix27 3 · 3 1

I agree. The New Black panther party only care about themselves and find a need to perpetuate themselves by any means. The trouble with this world is there is an 'us and them people' kind of separationalist mentality.No-one should discriminate because of race.

2007-12-07 11:01:15 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The New Black Panther Party is racist. Racism is here to stay because mankind is not ready for mass forced intergration. It has destroyed the West. China won't make the same mistake. For us it's every man for himself. Just try and survive.

2007-12-07 10:52:00 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

No, the demonstrations were by a race-based group. What difference does it make? They have every right to demonstrate. It wouldn't have had any effect on the outcome.

2007-12-07 12:26:18 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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