Tactics question?

Question

In a long range (special operation) demolition mission, To destroy a cache of rebel weapons, collect documents and if possible capture a hostage. What would you send for an E-Vac?

2 Black Hawks?
2-3 Hummers?
1 Pavelow?


Just my own curiosity.

Time of day: 22:00
Resistance: 3-6 armed guards

Thanks for the tactile information, for the wife who didn't answer ( for the sake that i might be a informant or something) I'm a 19 year old kid in the DEP's program in the airforce. When i get bored I think of possible situations and scenarios, and then how to finish them.

Answer 1

Well it certainly wouldn't be a Pavelow, too big and loud.
If one wanted to sneak in the proper way, then use hummers to get near the area of operation. Once initial attack starts, then radio for e-vac via Black Hawks and air support during operation.

Answer 2

There are no "canned' operations in Special Forces..... each mission is approached and planned taking into consideration all the individual factors....

When a Green Beret team is alerted.....they are put into isolation......no contact with the outside world...... they are given the mission; In this case a snatch and a weapons cache destruction.....(documents and other intelligence gathering is always a part of any mission) The team will request all the information they will need, from weather to enemy composition. They will plan the infiltration, the actions on target, and exfiltration to include back up plans. They will plan for every contingency including full compromise.
Once they have the tactical plan they will brief the commander and his staff.....they will quiz the team to assure they are all completely in tune with the plan.

How "long range"?.....that factor would be critical in determining the possible infil & exfil mode .....the size and composition of the cache....... the terrain and weather....enemy reaction force, composition and capability..... an E&E plan.....a re-supply plan.....

While a Pavelow is noisy......if you just blew up a huge weapons cache...... "quiet and silent" may not be an important consideration ...... If the "long range" is beyond the flight characteristics of a blackhawk ....it may not be useful either........as most POWs have time sensitive information......you might want a MacGuire Rig extraction....... for speed...... I doubt a hummer would be use under normal circumstances, but the geographical situation and enemy capabilities would be a factor there too.....

Bottomline: As there are so many variables it is almost impossible to come up with a realistic solution to this hypothetical mission.

Answer 3

Depends on the terrain and location for an E-vac but most common would be helicopters or possibly MV-22's as they get deployed and proven. Might be Blackhawks or use CH-46, CH-47 or CH-53 models also depending on size and what you are carrying out. Hummers would be seldom used in any long range operation since the opposition could track and move with them to the pickup point and while they can track helicopters it is more difficult and keeping up with them is much harder based on speed and going over terrain you have to go through. Why it is almost always helicopters in that situation. Urban raids, Mogadishu, was a different matter as the landing zone choices were restricted based on buildings and the opfor could stake them out easier.

Answer 4

There is not nearly enough info here to answer this kind of question.

1. How much resistance is or is expected in the area.

2. Where is the location in reference to available units.

3. What kind of unit was sent in.

4. How many in said unit was sent in.

5. What time of day was the operation conducted.

6. Anything else that I can't think of at the moment.

However, if you are going to be transporting a prisoner, Humvees are not the way to go. There is no way to keep a prisoner secured in one. And they would be more vulnerable to hostile fire going in and out.

Personally depending on the mission requirements I would like to have the Mh-53E with a couple Cobra or Apache Gunships providing cover.

Answer 5

2 blackhawks.

2 recon on ground first to report position of hostage & enemies. (snipers)

get on the ground some 10 minutes away or as far as needed for cover

find good angles and pick off those closest to the hostage then move in fast with smoke & flash

black hawks to land as close as possible 3 or 4 minutes after the attack for evac

set charges for 20 or 30 seconds after the blackhawks leave to blow some sh*t up & to convince enemy there still might be US Forces on the ground.


*You could use air firepower so long as you KNEW where the hostage was and if the bad guys were separated. Then you could be over or behind the hostage and defend outward from that position driving the enemy back.

Answer 6

I would like to first remind anyone who reads and answers this question that your answers may pose an OPSEC problem. This question is asking about troop tactics and movements that may harm my husband and other Soldiers when he has to "destroy a cache of rebel weapons, collect documents and if possible capture a hostage." We don't now who this person is and what his intentions are with this information or who else is reading this post. Please think before you answer. Sorry for not fulfilling your curiosity about Army tactics. It's for the safety of our Soldiers.

Answer 7

When I asked why Christians didn't act like the Jesus does in the Bible, I was called a liar and asked where my proof is. How do you prove anything having to do with Religion and spirituality. I felt a bit bushwhacked. Actually, I felt like Martin Sheen when he goes back to the boat and finds Chef dead.

Answer 8

2 Black Hawks with Air Force cover!!

Answer 9

Need a METT-TC analysis to give a good answer.