When and for what reason were the words about Jesus' descent into Hell before ascending into Heaven removed from the recitation of The Creed?
2007-12-06
15:51:04
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In the Charleston (SC) diocese we have not recited, for about 20 years,the Creed to include the part where He "descended into Hell". That is why I am wondering when it was allowed to be altered. I have noticed in other dioceses that the Creed is recited omitting this part in other churches I have visited outside our diocese.
2007-12-09
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*Is Catholic*
It is supposed to be in the recitation of the Apostles Creed but not Niceaen -Constantinople.
The reason for it not being said in the Apostles Creed (that is removed) depends on who is removing it. The idea is offensive to some protestants as it is at variance with their incomplete notion of salvation and or methodology of biblical reading. The idea is also offensive to modernistic and liberal philosophy for various complex reasons.
In general in the Catholic situation the removal has to do with not seeing Christ and his salvific mission as ultimatly fundamental to salvation. The necessity of Christ descending into hell is so that He could preach salvation to the dead, to condemn those who would not listen during their lives and to lead those who awaiting the messiah to heaven. If a person does not believe that Christ alone saves, there is not a necessity for Christ to descend to hell as those who die are saved by other means other than Christ.
Also there might be some indication that there is a belief that the individual doesn't believe that people are damned (more of a liberal relativist position) or a Calvanistic protestant position that Christ need not descend to hell because salvation and damnation is predestined and the spreading of the gospel (by man or by Christ) does not affect the destiny of the individual.
But in the modern world it is rather a disbelief in the universality and uniqueness of Christ that brings such a position.
2007-12-11 07:28:48
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answered by Liet Kynes 5
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The Roman Catholic Church never deleted the part of the Apostles creed about Jesus' descent into hell. The version of the apostles creed that some non-catholic christian churches say does not include it because they read from a bible that was revised by King James. The Catholic church is the only church that has been around since the time of Jesus. It was started when Jesus built the church on Peter.
This is the current Catholic Apostles Creed
1. I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth:
2. And in Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord:
3. Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary:
4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead and buried: He descended into hell:
5. The third day he rose again from the dead:
6. He ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty:
7. From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead:
8. I believe in the Holy Ghost:
9. I believe in the holy catholic church: the communion of saints:
10. The forgiveness of sins:
1l. The resurrection of the body:
12. And the life everlasting. Amen.
2007-12-06 16:06:30
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answered by Tiffany 2
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You are confused between the Nicean Creed and the Apostles' Creed. We recite the Nicean Creed at Mass each week.
The Nicene Creed is the most widely accepted and used brief statements of the Christian Faith. In liturgical churches, it is said every Sunday as part of the Liturgy. You will hear it proclaimed at Eastern Orthodox, Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran, and other Christian worship celebrations around the world.
The Apostles' Creed is often used at Baptisms and at other times. Many Eastern Orthodox churches use only the Nicene Creed.
2007-12-12 05:49:57
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answered by Anonymous
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2016-10-01 01:33:06
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answered by ? 4
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At the parish I attend, and most other parishes I have attended, we recite the Nicene Creed, not the Apostles Creed.
As far as I know, the Apostles Creed has never changed.
2007-12-07 05:32:33
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answered by Anonymous
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The Catholic Church believes that those who die never hearing of Christ but have sought the truth and does the will of God as they understand it can be saved. See Romans 2:13-16. (1)
If they died before Jesus died for our sins and opened the gates of heaven for us, then they waited in what is called in the Old Testament Abraham's bosom or Sheol.
Catholics believe that after Jesus died on the cross, he descended into Sheol, the place of the dead. While there He freed the holy souls who awaited their savior in Abraham's bosom. (2)
For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church,
(1) sections 1257-1261: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt2sect2.htm#art1
(2) section 632 and following: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt2art5.htm#p1
With love in Christ.
2007-12-08 15:52:01
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answered by imacatholic2 7
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The Apostles Creed can be "He descended to the dead"
or "He descended into hell "
It depends what Sunday Missal you have . Both words are approved by the archbishop of your city as all missals have been prepared in accordance with the revised lectionary.
2007-12-06 16:31:59
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answered by ROBERT P 7
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According to the Catechism, they're still there.
http://www.va/archive/catechism/p1s1c3a2.htm#credo
2007-12-06 16:00:48
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answered by Anonymous
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I must have missed the memo ? As far I know nothing has been changed ? Is it Post Vatican II modernism ?
God bless,
JMJ (SSPX)
2007-12-06 17:22:59
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answered by BORED II 4
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It's still in the one I use every day.
2007-12-07 11:12:55
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answered by James O 7
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