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2007-12-06 13:14:54 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

What about these verses?

Ecc 12:6 Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
Ecc 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

2007-12-06 13:21:38 · update #1

What challenge is that?

2007-12-06 13:41:38 · update #2

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There are many texts which describe the fate of the wicked but the following text declares in no uncertain terms that when all is said and done, the wicked will no longer exist. The idea of eternal torment cannot exist if the following text is true.

Revelation 21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

2007-12-06 13:35:51 · answer #1 · answered by Mr. E 7 · 1 0

At 1 Corinthians 15:25, 26 the apostle Paul wrote: “[Christ] must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet. As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing.” But what death did the apostle have in mind?
First of all, let us note that this enemy could not be the “second death” repeatedly mentioned in the book of Revelation. ( 2:11; 20:6, 14; 21:8) Why not? Because nowhere do we read of its being destroyed. How could it be, since it means eternal annihilation, everlasting destruction or punishment? It will always exist, and that in two respects. First, it will never be destroyed in that it will never give up the dead in it. Second, it will exist forever in that, should anyone throughout all eternity rebel against God (though this is highly improbable), he would be cast into the “lake of fire,” the “second death.” So the “second death” will neither release those who are in it nor become powerless should any deserve to be committed to it throughout eternity.

2007-12-06 21:21:41 · answer #2 · answered by conundrum 7 · 1 0

The Lake of Fire.

Revelation 20:14
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.

It has nothing to do with "perish", that is cease to exist, for it is eternal anguish.

2007-12-06 21:21:17 · answer #3 · answered by Holy Holly 5 · 0 2

Revelation 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Revelation 20:13-15 (in Context) Revelation 20 (Whole Chapter)
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Revelation 21:7-9 (in Context) Revelation 21 (Whole Chapter)

You do not perish but are tormented for eternity.

IN HELL:
You will receive a body fit for Hell and the Lake of Fire which will be tormented ever second by flames and the worm that never dies will gnaw on your body but it will not destroy it but you will feel every bit of pain.
Luke 16:24
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Luke 16:23-25 (in Context) Luke 16 (Whole Chapter)
Luke 16:25
But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
Luke 16:24-26 (in Context) Luke 16 (Whole Chapter)

Revelation 14:10
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Revelation 14:9-11 (in Context) Revelation 14 (Whole Chapter)
Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Revelation 20:9-11 (in Context) Revelation 20 (Whole Chapter

2007-12-06 21:25:16 · answer #4 · answered by deacon 6 · 0 1

. “The lake of fire” into which death, Hades, the symbolic “wild beast” and “the false prophet,” Satan, his demons, and the persistent practicers of wickedness on earth are cast is shown to mean “the second death.” (Re 20:10, 14, 15; 21:8) Initially death resulted from and was passed on to mankind as a result of Adam’s transgression; hence “the second death” must be distinct from this inherited death. It is evident from the cited texts that there is no release possible from “the second death.” The situation of those in “the second death” corresponds to the outcome warned of in such texts as Hebrews 6:4-8; 10:26, 27; and Matthew 12:32.

“But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them. And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulphur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet already were.” (Revelation 20:9b-10a) Rather than being merely abyssed, this time Satan, the original serpent, will actually be crushed out of existence, pulverized, completely annihilated as if by fire.

“the lake of fire and sulphur” could not be a literal place of torment. (Revelation 19:20) If Satan were to suffer excruciating torture there for all eternity, Jehovah would have to preserve him alive. Yet, life is a gift, not a punishment. Death is the punishment for sin, and according to the Bible, dead creatures feel no pain. (Romans 6:23; Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10) Moreover, we read later that death itself, along with Hades, is cast into this same lake of fire and sulfur. Surely, death and Hades cannot suffer pain!

All of this reinforces the view that the lake of fire and sulfur is symbolic. Further, the mention of fire and sulfur calls to mind the fate of ancient Sodom and Gomorrah, destroyed by God because of their gross wickedness. When their time came, “Jehovah made it rain sulphur and fire from Jehovah, from the heavens, upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah.” What befell the two cities is called “the judicial punishment of everlasting fire.” (Jude 7) Yet, those two cities did not suffer everlasting torment. Rather, they were blotted out, obliterated for all time, along with their depraved inhabitants. Those cities do not exist today, and no one can say for sure where they were located.

In harmony with this, the Bible itself explains the meaning of the lake of fire and sulfur: “This means the second death, the lake of fire.” It is clearly the same as the Gehenna that Jesus spoke of, a place where the wicked remain destroyed, not tortured forever. (Matthew 10:28) It is complete, utter destruction without hope of a resurrection. Thus, while there are keys for death, Hades, and the abyss, there is no mention of a key for opening the lake of fire and sulfur. It will never release its captives.

Since the lake of fire represents “the second death” and since Revelation 20:14 says that both “death and Hades” are to be cast into it, it is evident that the lake cannot represent the death man has inherited from Adam (Ro 5:12), nor does it refer to Hades (Sheol). It must, therefore, be symbolic of another kind of death, one that is without reversal, for the record nowhere speaks of the “lake” as giving up those in it, as do Adamic death and Hades (Sheol). (Re 20:13) Thus, those not found written in “the book of life,” unrepentant opposers of God’s sovereignty, are hurled into the lake of fire, meaning eternal destruction, or the second death.

2007-12-07 02:39:31 · answer #5 · answered by BJ 7 · 0 0

The first time a person dies, they have the hope of a resurrection.
Its not immediate, but Jesus did speak of a future period wherein the dead would be made to live again.
If a person dies after that resurrection, the only reason would be disobedience ....like Adam.
Hence, that second death results in non-existence forever.
"Perished" if you prefer.

2007-12-06 21:19:41 · answer #6 · answered by Uncle Thesis 7 · 1 1

the secong death happens after you leave the Great White Throne of Judgement and are cast into the lake of fire- and fire that is never quenched, and worm that never dies in total darkness. Perish is to die forever in that context.

2007-12-06 21:20:20 · answer #7 · answered by Seeno†es™ 6 · 0 1

in christian theology it has to do with the eternal death of the soul (the seond death, after the death of the body) which is ultimately to perish.

2007-12-06 21:18:46 · answer #8 · answered by rosends 7 · 1 1

I always understood it to mean hell.

You still have one hour left to take up my challenge of yesterday night.

2007-12-06 21:24:06 · answer #9 · answered by Citizen Justin 7 · 0 2

death unto death

stuble... no root, no branch.

the chaff being burnt

2007-12-06 21:22:04 · answer #10 · answered by Pulling Down Strongholds 6 · 0 1

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