"That notion that things can just get changed is scary for a lot of people who worry that a church with a very strong authority center could influence a public leader by suddenly getting a new revelation that has an impact on public policy." This was said by Rev. Mouw, of the Southern Baptist church, about the LDS church, and having a Mormon in the Oval Office. My question is, what revelation could POSSIBLY impact public policy to THIS degree? I don't know what revelation could possibly be this important?
Do you have any ideas?
2007-12-06
07:51:34
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Faceless, I am already aware of this, what I asked was, what POSSIBLE revelation could God give to our prophet/apostles, that would affect a Mormon in the white house to choose theh church over the constitution? Because we also believe the constitution to be an inspired document. A Mormon's vows to protect and defend the constitution would be more heart felt than any other.
And remember, all our revelations come from God (we believe). It's like Kennedy said, our prophet has all authority to guide us in spiritual matters, but, if Romney were elected president, he would not take the authority of the church over his own good judgment, or that of his advisors. The LDS church has no desire to rule the world, or even the country.
2007-12-06
19:38:54 ·
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Also, why would Romney be any more apt to force his religion on anyone, than any other president did,has, or will? Anyone's worries about this are really very silly. Why would we force our beliefs on those who don't want them?
2007-12-06
19:41:38 ·
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Herein lies my concern with Mitt Romney as President of the United States: if, as believing Mormons say, the Prophet and the 11 other Apostles of LDS truly offer inspired prophecy which can be wholly new and which is not subject to scrutiny or reproach from the natural law; and if Mitt Romney is indeed a believing and faithful Mormon and therefore obliged to follow these prophecies; then why should I not be greatly concerned about the future prophecies of the 12 Apostles of the LDS? If their new teachings have the status of prophecy that must be obeyed and adhered to, then, in order to trust a Mormon President of the United States, wouldn’t I have to trust the Prophet of the LDS as well?
I happen to agree with the shift to monogamy and the shift to a pan-racial LDS. But unless the LDS’s 12 Apostles have some reliable, explicable, rational basis for these changes, then I cannot adjudge any fundamental belief and policy flowing from those beliefs which Mitt Romney might adhere to in the campaign as anything more stable than the prophecies of the LDS. And history shows that these can fundamentally change.
Since such issues as monogamy versus polygamy are fundamental issues for society and leadership in our government, I am unable to support a devout Mormon for President without a detailed explanation of either (a) the rational criteria which underpins these prophecies; or (b) doctrinal grounds allowing for conscientious objection in the event of fundamental changes in the Mormon faith.
I doubt that Mr Romney will say that the Mormon faith has no serious or effective influence over the hearts and minds of believing Mormons. This cannot be true. Otherwise, the ban on polygamy would never have been made, or, once made, the majority of Mormons would never have followed it. And I hope that he does not say that he has always followed his own conscience and ignored his faith on all matters pertaining to politics and leadership. This I very much doubt, anyway, because Governor Romney has said he is a devout Mormon, and we know that indeed he was a Mormon bishop and stakeholder.
Either Governor Romney is honest, and therefore very serious about his Mormon faith, in which case I need a detailed explanation of why the Prophet and the 11 other Apostles of LDS will not hand down new and binding prophecies while a coreligionist is in the White House, or he is not honest, and therefore will ignore any future prophecies of the LDS. I hope the Governor is honest, and so I hope he will address my difficult questions.
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2007-12-06 12:47:35
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answered by Faceless 4
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Truthfully I don't know what they are worrying about, when I was a mormon...things were differant, my ward was just wanting to get a president/mormon in office to get laws past that mormons ALREADY believe in...IE...No open alcoholic containers in public places, no smoking in public places, laws against abortions, you know already existing mormon standing rules, since I have been or known mormons, there have not been any major prophecies that would rock the world. I just would not want the mormon Pres. to say that we will all be mormons now, the country will now be a dry country again like in prohobition, being gay is now outlawed (of course I wouldn't mind that) a book of mormon will now replace the bible in every church, you know such things like that.
Some christians liked Bush, although I think he was a freemason and I don't think christianity and freemasondry mix, but he was outspoken about abortion, and had a preacher give a prayer in public and did not like Stem cell research.
So you could say I am nutrual on this: Even if the president of the LDS church suddenly called the saints to Missouri and said the second coming was coming, that would not effect the rest of the US.
This portion is a joke, so don't get offended, since I am an ex-mormon and mormons are known for persecution mania, I should be paranoid about Rmney being a president, shouldn't I? LOL.
Besides there is such a thing known as IMPEACHMENT and VETO, I am not sure what people are worried about, the anti-Christ is coming out of Europe somewhere according to mainstream christianity, not the US.
2007-12-06 08:08:08
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answered by Anonymous
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Mitt Romney scares me. I don't why maybe because I'm ex Mormon I know what the church is doing. If you go by the Joseph Smith revelation Mormon Church will save the government . And believe in the one word order. That we have be come Mormon or die,
2007-12-07 02:11:12
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answered by Tinkerbelle2007 3
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i'm LDS and that's stressful to think of that there are people who act like this Rev. (if real) in the 12 months 2007! For all the meant tolerance that exists in the US, this prevalent habit in direction of the LDS church is unquestionably astonishing. The church has an good coverage of political nuetrality so, mutually because it may take a ethical stance, it additionally will stay out of politics, like it has for years. despite if some astounding revelation happened, the founding fathers additionally created tests and balances to dodge one single entity from ursurping too plenty capability. Mitt Romney might merely no longer have the capability to alter existence as all of us are conscious of it. Congress won't be able to agree on something at present, do you think of that they are going to bypass some thing if Romney walks in and says he has had a revelation? so a tactics as revelations are worried, issues like the 2d coming of the Savior and all the thrilling issues predicted in Revelations, will probable no longer come by making use of way of the White domicile. enable's exercising some trouble-free sense right here.
2016-10-10 10:07:26
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answered by Anonymous
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Sorry, I'm not non or anti Mormon, but I feel I need to answer fanofchan.
Fan: To my knowledge we are not pro-one world government. We believe in being subject to the laws of the land in which the member lives. To me this means being very patriotic about the country in which one lives. I too am very big on America staying a sovreign nation. I really don't think you have anything to worry about concerning this and a possible Mormon President.
7 of 9, thanks for your answer. It's good to hear what a former member has to say about all of this Romney for President stuff.
2007-12-06 09:02:32
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answered by Tonya in TX - Duck 6
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The only revelation that make any difference to mankind at all is that of Jesus Christ. You religion is not scary to me at all, I am not involved it's it's blasphemy. If I was then I would be worried.. IHS Jim
2007-12-06 08:02:53
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answered by Anonymous
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The revelation that we need to nuke the antichrist (whatever form they like that to take) but we will be ok, because our underpants will protect us
2007-12-06 07:58:25
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answered by Anonymous
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