She now wants to turn herself in what would be the most realistic consequences. And i dont want to hear of her getting shot or Jailed for years...I know a couple of Soldiers that have done worst.....Thank you for your time.
2007-12-06 05:05:29 · 16 answers · asked by CHRISP 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
Davidmi77 pretty much summed it up. It all depends on all of the circumstances involved.
I hope whatever issues your friend was facing that caused her to go AWOL have been resolved. I think it is commendable, even after 14 months, she is going to turn herself and face the music. I wish her the best in this matter and in her future. We all make mistakes and bad decisions. It is not appropriate to judge someone by a mistake or a bad decision.
2007-12-06 05:18:53 · answer #1 · answered by ? 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If he was gone for more than 30 days and was arrested by either military or civilian authorities after the 30 days has expired, I believe that he's a deserter and that's far more serious than AWOL. AWOL usually isn't treated as serious because he's just absent, not more than 30 days has expired so they leave some hope that he will return. After 30 days, if he has destroyed his uniforms, ID cards, and all things that identify him as being in the military, I’m sure that he’s considered a deserter. If he had turned himself in before the 30 days was up, still had his uniforms, and ID card on him, he’d have gotten an Article 15 or 92, I can’t remember which, and some extra duty, a fine, and unit or battalion restriction for 1 – 3 months for the first offense. The fact that he was gone for more than 30 days, made no attempt to contact any form of military or civilian authorities to turn himself in, and was later arrested doesn’t look good. Like somebody has already pointed out, take a look at his DD214, it will tell you everything that you need to know about his discharge. I could be mistaken about what I’m talking about, but I’m pretty sure that it works that way. I saw dozens of men go UA, that’s the USMC’s version of AWOL, and they all came back before the 30 days was up and all they got was a month of extra duty, fine, and unit restriction. One man was gone for 45 – 60 days, but because he turned himself in, he was returned to his unit, continued on in the USMC for another two years, he was reduced in rank, fined, and had unit restriction for sixty days. One last note, I believe that you mean “Other Than Honorable” not “Less Than Honorable.” If he did indeed get an OTH, that’s not bad, it won’t follow him through his life, and apparently he hated the military, they knew it, and they left him off the hook. It’s a win - win situation. Military doesn’t want to take care of a man that doesn’t want to be there and a man that doesn’t want to be there no longer has to put up with the military.
2016-05-28 11:04:42 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Odds are they will give her a choice if she volutarily turns herself in.
One is that she can just say "I can't do this". Jail, forced to stay until processed, makework in the meantime, mental evaluations etc. are possible. But most likely they will get her out and there will be a dishonorable discharge. This is the real punishment........ never getting a great job or being shot down work wise 20 years from now.
Or she says she was messed up, not thinking properly, she realizes the possible consequences and would like to stay in. Things could go south but it would go much easier.
Either way the sooner she does it the better. One day, not doing so will cause problems and she will always be looking over her shoulder and wishing that she had done it different.
Best to call a base and get it over with. What happens happens but at least it will be done. Regardless of what people may think the military can be forgiving..... a person just needs to make the first step.
2007-12-06 06:39:22 · answer #3 · answered by jackson 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No matter what she will be given a chance to explain why she went AWOL if she wants to stay in she may be allowed to do so.. look up these Army Regulations I hope it helps.
AR 630-10 Absence Without Leave, Desertion, and Administration of Personnel Involved in Civilian Court Proceedings
AR 190-9 Absentee Deserter Apprehension Program and Surrender of Military Personnel to Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies
AR 635-200 Active Duty Enlisted Administrative Separations
Good Luck to her ,
Armywife & Soldier
2007-12-06 08:37:18 · answer #4 · answered by Justice35 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Probably just a Dishonorable Discharge, but she will have to do extra duty and wait on the Army to put her out....which could be a long time...she will never really be able to get a good job...so she is screwed...worse case...jail...but it is war time, they could shoot her, but they won't...or then again they make her stay in and send her to Iraq, with no R & R...that would be justice...
EDIT: Wow I got two thumbs downs for the truth...she is not comendable, she is just lucky she was not caught first...and it really isn't what the circumstances are...the UCMJ is very clear on what you do to Soldiers who go AWOL...she was gone longer than 60 days so she was "Dropped from the Rolls" so they will have to bring her back on, which takes time...then she will get an FIELD GRADE AR15, she will have to do her extra duty which can be up to 75 day...then the AR15 will go to the Commanding General, and they will decide what to do with her...I had a Soldier that was picking up trash around my warehouse on Extra Duty who went AWOL for two weeks...he Got 75 day Extra Duty and a Dishonorable Discharge...so thumbs down that...she was a coward...I would never hire someone like that...and most employeers fell the same...a Felon has to live with it the rest of their life, even if they did the crime at 16...so will she...unless she move to San Fransico...then she will probably get a job...
2007-12-06 05:15:01 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
The best thing she can to is report back to her unit.
If she has been gone less than 30 days then she will lose a lot of rank and pay - but be allowed to remain in and complete her enlistment. (This is her best option because it will allow her to get an Honorable Discharge.)
If she has been gone over 30 days then what she does determines what happened. If she reports back to her unit then her name will be transferred back to the rolls of the unit - this will give her the chance to plead her case with the CO. Even if they do not allow her to stay in - she _may_ be able to get a general discharge simply because this involves less paperwork for her commander.
If she gets picked up by the police or turns herself in at a post other than her duty station - she will be shipped to a holding unit where she will likely get a summary court and an OTH.
One thing - if her unit deployed during the time she was absent, then she _will_ get prison time.
2007-12-06 06:49:23 · answer #6 · answered by MikeGolf 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Odds are if she does go back they will most likely keep her jailed up until she is discharged from the military. They are not into shooting deserters anymore. I know this because I know of a few people this happened to and they turned them selves back in and that was all that happened to them. They are usually only jailed long enough to kick them out of the military.
Oh, and by the by, it is better for her to turn herself in and face the music then happen to get caught one day and the punishment would be far worse.
2007-12-06 05:12:37 · answer #7 · answered by Wright 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
What will happen will depend on how long she was gone. Your question says both 14 months and one month.
if she has not been classified a deserter she is probably looking at getting busted a rank, a fine and restriction. If she has been classified a deserter she is looking at a court martial and would probably get a BCD or a dishonorable plus some time in the brig.
2007-12-06 05:12:47 · answer #8 · answered by davidmi711 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
You know what...I am not going to judge her - she obviously didn't realize what she was getting into. I don't know what the consequences are but I feel bad for her. I know people don't want to hear this and I will probably get thumbs down but so what. I suppose she is young? Too bad she didn't talk to anyone (or maybe listen to their advice?) before enlisting and then going awol. I hope her punnishment isn't too bad and she can handle it.
Justice3 - that was nice of you not to call her a name, even if you thought it. No one knows the reasons for this kid to do what she did. She could have enlisted straight out of high school for all we know and didn't realize all she was involving herself in. She may have even joined because of peer pressure or family made her feel like she had to.
2007-12-06 05:23:43 · answer #9 · answered by Lisa2000 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
It will depend on whether she will want to return to active duty. If refuses then they can jail her, if she just says she got scared but wants to do the right thing, they might take it easy on her and give her a dishonorable discharge.
2007-12-06 05:13:34 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋