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I can think of a few

the judas thing
the adam and eve
the pharaoh hardened heart

can you think of other examples?

2007-12-06 02:46:12 · 20 answers · asked by Mayonaise 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Ordering a father to kill his son...

Messing with Job on a bet...

Think about this... can a 15 year old girl say no to a God? I'd call that being under duress...

He gave Adam and Eve free will, but punished them for exercising it...

All of the stories in the "Bible" are coercive, manipulative, exploitive, or just plain nasty.

2007-12-06 02:51:41 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

Adam and Eve chose to listen to the serpent instead of God. Pharaoh was already stubborn and prideful God hardened his heart to show his power (the plagues and whatnot)to the Egyptians and to the Hebrews. Judas was overtaken with sinful greed (the devil strikes where we are the weakest)

2007-12-06 10:59:22 · answer #2 · answered by B"Quotes 6 · 0 1

1 Samuel 2:22-25 mentions the inappropriate actions of the the high priest Eli's sons. They didn't listen to their father's rebuke because it was God's will to kill them.

Romans 9 :10-13 talks about how God loved Jacob and hated Esau while they were still in the womb.

John 6:44 & 65 Jesus is saying that no one can come to him unless the father draws him. The Greek word for draw is the same word translated as drag in other verses like Luke 12:58, Acts 6:12, Acts 16:19, and Acts 17:6 which talk about being forcably brought before judges and city officials. The Savior himself is basically saying that no one, none of us, not one person is able to come to him unless the Father makes you believe. So much for our highly over-rated free will.

2007-12-06 11:22:54 · answer #3 · answered by mt75689 7 · 1 1

One could make an argument that any rule or commandment whatsoever (like the ten commandments) is an affront to human freewill. But as far as God controlling people like puppets, this seems to happen only to certain special people who have some task to do or when God wants to make an example of someone.

Many people have used the argument that ROmans 9:16 refers to humans' lack of free will: http://bible.cc/romans/9-16.htm. I think it merely means that SOME people are not completely free to do what they want, because they've been predestined for something specific.

2007-12-06 11:01:17 · answer #4 · answered by bishopsjewels 3 · 1 0

While rather vague, I can see some error in your thinking.

Adam and Eve: The supposed progenitors of the species. They were not given the personality fragments of God as they were the direct creations thus they were never intended to have freewill to know God. It was their offspring which were the first to receive such things.

I'm not sure what you're referring to by the "the judas thing" or "the pharoah hardened heart" perhaps you could elaborate.

Judas chose to follow Christ, regardless of if he was ordered to betray Christ to ensure fulfillment of prophecy or "Was deceived by Satan" he still personally chose to make a decision one way or another. Simply being aware of the will of God, does not force one to uphold it.

2007-12-06 10:51:38 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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Inflected Form(s): in·ter·fered; in·ter·fer·ing
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2007-12-06 11:15:19 · answer #6 · answered by darkness breeds 5 · 0 1

Judas made his decision on his own long before Satan entered him and went to betray Christ.

Adam and Eve chose on their own.

Pharaohs heart was already hardened. God hardened it more as an example of how prideful he was.

2007-12-06 10:51:22 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

freedom is not absolute and is not an end to itself. you are free to choose between good and evil and once you make that choice, you are no longer free.

what makes a person conitnually good and contniue to grow is his willingnes to do good always.

Just like you are free to join the army, navy or airforce. Once you decide, which military organisation you want to join, you are no longer free do do as you like. If oyu join the airforce as a pilot, you cannot choose to fly as and when you like. The lives of your countrymen are important and you can nver tell when wat will strike. So you have to keep training in being a better pilot and be good at flying your machine and keep updated with new developements in air warefare in terms of better and more sophistacted aircraft and weaponry to ensure your better chance of survival as an air warroir.

2007-12-06 11:05:46 · answer #8 · answered by Erton 2 · 1 1

GOD dont interfer w/ freewill in the bible.you have it all wrong,God loves you,there is the old teatament and the new,the old is before Jesus and the new is when Jesus came to earth,God in the flesh.read the bible and go to a study group you will ungerstand with age and love in your heart

2007-12-06 10:51:22 · answer #9 · answered by GOD IS LOVE 3 · 1 2

All religions are barbaric, not just Christianity.
They,re a relic from thousands of years ago that can only exist through the use of fear by those who still profit from their existence.
Get real. We are alone.

2007-12-06 10:54:18 · answer #10 · answered by Merovingian 6 · 2 0

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