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2007-12-06 00:46:33 · 68 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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There are no (absolute) proofs for, or against, the existence of God.

Proof is a tricky word. Many people think that proof establishes something is an absolute fact. That's not often the case; at least, not in the everyday world.

In jurisprudence and science, a reasonable basis for proof is based on solid evidence and the absence of any known contradiction. There's a "reasonable person" standard which defines proof as "beyond a reasonable doubt". The test of time fortifies proofs.

You say there are no unicorns? Prove it. You see? ABSOLUTE proof is an illusion -- especially when trying to prove a negative, such as "There is no God".

However, rephrasing the assertion from "There is no God", to "God is imaginary", makes proof easier, using the "reasonable person" standard. We can't ABSOLUTELY prove it but we can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

Consider this . . .

No matter where man has spread, he as created countless gods. From aboriginal Australians to tribal Africans to American Indians to ancient Egyptians . . . they've all created gods prolifically and with ease. That man creates gods is a well-known, indisputable fact.

But what about the opposite? God creating man? We DON'T know that he did. We have no evidence that he did. We have no reason to think that he did. All the evidence points to evolution over the course of billions of years. There's growing evidence that life originated from abiogenesis -- from an electro-chemical reaction in the primordial soup of early Earth.

So, with countless thousands of gods to man's credit, believers are in the untenable position of asserting that all the gods that came before and after theirs are false . . . but their own god (and religion) is real and true. Asserting that one's own god is real, when we know that man created all the others, is ridiculous. It is so unlikely that we can safely consider it delusional.

Man has created countless thousands of gods and YOURS (if you believe) has NO evidence. That, my friend, qualifies God’s existence as dubious, at best, and faith in him as misguided and misplaced. Based upon the preponderance of evidence, the assertion that "God is imaginary" meets the reasonable person standard for proof and has withstood the test of time for thousands of years.

2007-12-09 15:50:58 · answer #1 · answered by Seeker 6 · 0 0

How do Christians prove God Does Exist?

2007-12-08 10:04:59 · answer #2 · answered by ♥Violet's Mommy, Jons Wifey♥ 4 · 0 0

Two different things:
Belief and Facts
Someone can believe in God or someone could not.
Neither can prove their belief, they each just simply believe it. If beliefs were facts, then a secular government would never have been formed.
Beliefs become facts when we can prove them. If a scientist tells us that a certain star is 30 light-years away, we believe the it is fact, but if we see a sign that says wet paint, some of us seem to have to touch it, to prove it's true. Some people just believe certain things based on the people they trust and their own inclinations about whether they really need to touch this tangible thing for them self to believe it.

God is still just a belief regardless of any claim that any religion makes. Until there is something tangible, it's not a fact.

Of course something doesn't have to be tangible to be real to just one person at a time, so we all have beliefs. Against any belief that is unarguably believed by a person, any amount of proof is futile.

2007-12-06 00:59:14 · answer #3 · answered by i_fell 3 · 1 0

You do NOT prove that something does not exist. This is a logical fallacy and it true for all things, not just religion. The reason why is that you can not conclusively prove that something doesn't exist. Therefore it is the burden of the claimant to prove the existence of what they claim.

Granted, we can make some very strong arguments against imaginary claims, i.e. for Santa, he would have 34 microseconds at each stop to drop off presents and would have to travel around 3000 miles a second. For gods, there is no evidence to indicate that they exist.

But the rule still applies, if you believe that a god exists, it is your responsiblity to prove that.

2007-12-06 00:54:10 · answer #4 · answered by Pirate AM™ 7 · 3 0

How do Christians prove God does exist?

2007-12-06 01:04:06 · answer #5 · answered by I think I'm Dumb ~Amy~ 7 · 0 0

It actually is possible to prove a negative. If a certain premise leads to a logical contradiction then that premise has been demonstrated to be false.

For example, we can assume an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent creature created the universe and sends people to heaven or hell after they die. We'll call this creature God. Now based on causal determinism God would be directly responsible for the actions of everything it created, since all events are necessitated by previous events up to the first event which was God creating everything. Since God is personally responsible for all our actions, it would be unjust to punish anyone for anything. And for an omnibenevolent being to be unjust is a logical contradiction. Therefore the initial premise that God exists must be false.

Of course this proof is valid only for gods that fit the definition given above, however I've made it easily vague enough to fit the God of each of the major monotheistic traditions.

2007-12-06 00:58:14 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

A true atheist would not feel the need to do so at all. In fact, a true atheist may feel sympathy toward people of faith and kindly not discuss the matter in the same way we do not always tell children the truth about Santa Claus. To argue to prove something is evidence of it's existence and one's desire to try to change that fact.

2007-12-06 06:07:11 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Since most (but not all) atheists don't have such an argument, they are in fact agnostics.

It is important, however, to give atheists their due. Some, of course, need to be dismissed. For example, those who say they will believe nothing without a logical proof have a positivist stance that was demolished more than half a century ago. Beliefs form a web, and all of us have beliefs (even true beliefs) that have no justification because no one can actually get through life without that being the case.

Yet, there are views which need to give theists pause. Arguments that involve the presence of evil invoke important examinations of the sources, roles and place of evil in our world. Atheists, the thoughtful ones at least, are careful in their examinations of theistic arguments working to present counter examples to theistic assertions.

In fact, the more vibrant the conversations between theists and atheists, the stronger theism becomes.

HTH

Charles

2007-12-06 00:55:29 · answer #8 · answered by Charles 6 · 1 1

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2016-10-10 09:32:45 · answer #9 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

if it is in our minds then we would not know to rid your of superstition and immaturity by the use of reason at all times. reason does not have a time and place, because then unreasonable things may happen where reason is absent. If reason is absent from your god, then surely your god, your faith and your questions are unreasonable. All unreasonable things are to be avoided.

We conclude, and we certainly do not force you to accept our observations whilst we make ourselves. Instead of continuing the age old 'how to prove it has no existence' debate (Such a waste of valuable time) you could ask more relevant questions and find common grounds between Christians and Atheists. etc for example.

Taste a maturity beyond your faith O Christians.

Kind regards

2007-12-06 00:55:49 · answer #10 · answered by don't ask me while I'm t 4 · 3 0

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