Holy trinity, it is the truth or misinterpreted by the bible scholars?

Question

The answer will be better if it is Bible based...

Answer 1

Deuteronomy 6:4 says "Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one"! Obviously, that is saying that there is one God.
But Genesis 1:26,27 says Then God(SINGULAR) said, "Let Us(PLURAL) make man in Our(PLURAL) image, according to Our(PLURAL) likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
And God(SINGULAR) created man in His(SINGULAR) own image, in the image of God(SINGULAR) He(SINGULAR) created him; male and female He created them.
Who is US and OUR in these passages. Obviously you have one God but more than one persons in that Godhead.
Genesis 3:22 says "Then the LORD God(SINGULAR) said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us(PLURAL), knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever" —
Again, I have have to ask you, who is ONE OF US? Obviously, again you have one God with more than one persons.
Genesis 11:6,7 says "And the LORD(SINGULAR) said, "Behold, they are one people, and they all have the same language. And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them.
7 "Come, let Us(PLURAL) go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech."
Who is US! Again, you have one God with more than one persons.
Proverbs 30:2-4 says "Surely I am more stupid than any man, And I do not have the understanding of a man.
Neither have I learned wisdom, Nor do I have the knowledge of the Holy One.
Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His son’s name? Surely you know"!
Notice it talks about THE HOLY ONE AND HIS SON. Who are they?
Isaiah 6:3 says "And one called out to another and said, "Holy, Holy, Holy, is the LORD of hosts, The whole earth is full of His glory."
Notice the LORD of host is not just Holy. He's Holy,Holy,Holy. The LORD of host is one but his personhood is 3.
Isaiah 48:16 says "Come near to Me, listen to this: From the first I have not spoken in secret, From the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord GOD has sent Me, and His Spirit."
Here you have God and the Holy Spirit. In Proverbs 30:2-4 I showed that you had God and His Son. So far we have shown there is God, His Son and the Holy Spirit.
Look at Psalms chapter 2. Verse 2 talks about "the LORD and against His Anointed". Who is "His Anointed"?
Verse 7 says "I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, ‘Thou art My Son, Today I have begotten Thee".
Here the Lord has a Son.
Verse 12 says "Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, And you perish in the way, When His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him.
Here it says that if we don't worship the SON we will perish by the wrath of the SON but if we put our trust in Him we will be blessed. Who is the Son? It is clearly identified as the Son of the Lord(or the Son of God).
I've shown you that there is one God(Deuteronomy 6:4), He exists in more than one persons(all the SINGULAR and PLURAL verses in Genesis) and, in fact, there are 3 persons called God(God, theSpirit of God and His Son) from Proverbs 30, Isaiah 48 and Psalms 2. So you have one God and 3 persons called God and it's all from the Old Testament. I could show you verses in the New Testament too but you said that there were no verses in the Old Testament. That is known as the doctrine of the trinity. This is not a logical contradiction. If I said there was only one person in the Godhead and yet at the same time 3 persons in the Godhead, that would be a contradiction. If I said there was only one God and yet 3 Gods, that would also be a contradiction. But one God and 3 persons in the Godhead is not a logical contradiction. It's certainly a mystery. I'll admit I don't understand it. We perceive things by comparing them to other things on earth. Since there is nothing to compare the Trinity to on earth. it is hard for us to understand. But just because we don't understand something, it doesn't logically follow that it isn't true. It just means we don't understand it. I don't understand how light could be in wave form and particle form at the same time. That just doesn't seem possible. Yet it is true. There's a lot of things I don't understand(mostly in quantum physics) and yet they are true. If God is infinite and we are finite you would expect that there would be some things that we, with our finite minds would be unable to comprehend about an infinite being in our present state.

Answer 2

The trinity is not the truth. The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.

The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

WHY, for thousands of years, did none of God’s prophets teach his people about the Trinity? At the latest, would Jesus not use his ability as the Great Teacher to make the Trinity clear to his followers? Would God inspire hundreds of pages of Scripture and yet not use any of this instruction to teach the Trinity if it were the “central doctrine” of faith?

Search as you may, you will not find one scripture that uses the word Trinity, nor will you find any that says that Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom. Not even a single scripture says that the Son is equal to the Father in those ways—and if there were such a scripture, it would establish not a Trinity but at most a “duality.” Nowhere does the Bible equate the holy spirit with the Father.

Rather than say that God was composed of three persons, Jesus clearly said to his Father at John 17:3: "This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ."

Silver says: "The word "elohim" and the pronoun "us" are plural forms - definitely more than two - and must be referring to three or more [father, son, holy spirit]."

If you didn't already believe in the trinity, how do you figure that the word "us" MUST be referring to THREE? Why not FOUR or FIFTY-TWO? You are just projecting your own views into this verse.

If you are trying to prove the trinity by the plural form of "God," you would be saying that there are THREE GODS that make up the trinity, not three "persons," as most trinitarians believe.

If you do some research, you will discover that the trinity was created by the Catholic Church in the fourth century. As A Catholic Dictionary notes: “The third Person was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362 . . . and finally by the Council of Constantinople of 381.”

Look at every one of the verses used to support the trinity, and see if you can find at least one that says God is composed of 3 co-equal, co-eternal persons. I guarantee that you will not find it.

Answer 3

It took the church some 300 years to formulate the creeds so it is impossible to explain in one short answer on YA how the concept arose and how we use it.
The disciples were told to baptise people in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. (Matthew 28.19)
Jesus said that 'on that day you will know that I am in the Father (John 14.20)
Against this the early church fathers were very aware that there was one God who was indivisible - see the very full answer above from Upsman - So they had to handle the dichotomy. Slowly in prayer and meditation and much discussion the concept of the Trinity came into being.
I am not sure that it helps to ask whether it is true. God is beyond human understanding. If the concept helps in describing God then use it. If not don't.

Answer 4

It takes a book to answer your question. There is a bible based book (the Jewish Trinity) which was written by Yoel Natan. Yes genesis 1:1 talks about Trinity and it is not the same as "let us make a cake"

Answer 5

What did the first century christians believe?

Dr. H. R. Boer, in his book A Short History of the Early Church, comments on the thrust of the Apologists’ teaching:

“Justin [Martyr] taught that before the creation of the world God was alone and that there was no Son. . . . When God desired to create the world, . . . he begot another divine being to create the world for him. This divine being was called . . . Son because he was born; he was called Logos because he was taken from the Reason or Mind of God. . . .

“Justin and the other Apologists therefore taught that the Son is a creature. He is a high creature, a creature powerful enough to create the world but, nevertheless, a creature. In theology this relationship of the Son to the Father is called subordinationism. The Son is subordinate, that is, secondary to, dependent upon, and caused by the Father. The Apologists were subordinationists.”1

In the book The Formation of Christian Dogma, Dr. Martin Werner says of the earliest understanding of the relationship of the Son to God:

“That relationship was understood unequivocally as being one of ‘subordination’, i.e. in the sense of the subordination of Christ to God. Wherever in the New Testament the relationship of Jesus to God, the Father, is brought into consideration, . . . it is conceived of and represented categorically as subordination. And the most decisive Subordinationist of the New Testament, according to the Synoptic record, was Jesus himself . . . This original position, firm and manifest as it was, was able to maintain itself for a long time. ‘All the great pre-Nicene theologians represented the subordination of the Logos to God.’”2

In agreement with this, R. P. C. Hanson, in The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God, states:

“There is no theologian in the Eastern or the Western Church before the outbreak of the Arian Controversy [in the fourth century], who does not in some sense regard the Son as subordinate to the Father.”3

Dr. Alvan Lamson, in The Church of the First Three Centuries, adds this testimony regarding the teaching of church authorities before the Council of Nicaea (325 C.E.):

“The inferiority of the Son was generally, if not uniformly, asserted by the ante-Nicene Fathers . . . That they viewed the Son as distinct from the Father is evident from the circumstance that they plainly assert his inferiority. . . . They considered him distinct and subordinate.”4

Similarly, in the book Gods and the One God, Robert M. Grant says the following about the Apologists:

“The Christology of the apologies, like that of the New Testament, is essentially subordinationist. The Son is always subordinate to the Father, who is the one God of the Old Testament. . . . What we find in these early authors, then, is not a doctrine of the Trinity . . . Before Nicaea, Christian theology was almost universally subordinationist.”5

Christendom’s Trinity teaches that the Son is equal to God the Father in eternity, power, position, and wisdom. But the Apologists said that the Son was not equal to God the Father. They viewed the Son as subordinate. That is not the Trinity teaching.

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Answer 6

It is mentioned in scripture as the Godhead.

Psalm 34:8
O taste and see that the Lord is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him. Mathew 19:7 there is none good but one, that is, God. Mathew 12:29 The Lord our God is one Lord. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

God the father and his son are one in essence

Answer 7

in the passages in the old testament, a knowledge of hebrew is helpful. in genesis 1:1, the plural noun "elohim" is used. in genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7 and isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for "us" is used. that "elohim" and "us" refer to more than two is without question. in english, you only have two forms, singular and plural. in hebrew, you have three forms: singular, dual, and plural. dual is for two only. in hebrew, the dual form is used for things that come in pairs like eyes, ears, and hands. the word "elohim" and the pronoun "us" are plural forms - definitely more than two - and must be referring to three or more [father, son, holy spirit].

Answer 8

The Bible doesn’t support the idea of Trinity nor says that Jesus is the Almighty God.

Gen 1:26 states “Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness..”

Does this verse make God composed of THREE persons?

Please notice this.

The Mother said “Let US make a cake”, Is the Mother composed of THREE PERSONS? Or Is the Mother THREE Mothers?
Or The Mother is only talking to someone else, which let’s say is a daughter.


Here are Bible proofs why the doctrine of Trinity is false.

Isa 44:24 conflicts with the doctrine of the Trinity. In the Trinity’s doctrine, there are THREE CREATORS. But Isa 44:24 states that there is ONLY one CREATOR, Jehovah, he is the only Creator. If what you said was true, then this text doesn’t allow for ANY partners as well because of the term “by MYSELF”. MYSELF is only used for ONE PERSON and NEVER THREE PERSONS.

Acts 2:36 states that God has MADE Jesus both Lord and Christ. The Lordship of Jesus has a beginning because it was MADE by God.

JWs believe in the God the Father, the Son of God (Jesus) and God’s holy spirit. It is just different with the Trinity doctrine which says that those three are “Three Persons in one God” who are all Almighty.

The Bible doesn’t use the terms “God-Man” TriUne God, Trinity, Three Persons in One God , Three in One God , and other terminologies that make God Trinity. Why do you think you can’t find the word “reincarnation” in the Bible? The reason why you can’t find the word “reincarnation” in the Bible is the same reason why you can’t find the word “Trinity” in the Bible.

Is God composed of THREE PERSONS?

Gen 17:1 states “, then Jehovah appeared to A´bram and said to him: “I am God Almighty”

Do you use the phrase “I am” for THREE persons or you only use it for ONE Person?
If God is composed of THREE persons, God should have said “WE ARE God” but you cannot find that it the Bible.

You never use the phrase “I am” for THREE Persons. I am is only used for one person.

JESUS said to the Father also in John 17:3, that the Father is the “ONLY True God”, this means there is one and only one person who is God, the Father. and this is confirmed in 1 Cor 8:5 where is states “6 there is actually to us one God the FATHER”.Notice the Father only. Notice also in John 17:3 Jesus excluded himself as the only true God. Instead of saying “We are the only true God” JESUS said “YOU (referring to the Father), and not US” as the only true God. Now are you against Jesus?

Now, if the Son is Jehovah, the Father is Jehovah and the holy spirit is Jehovah according to the Trinity doctrine, then these THREE PERSONS, are THREE Jehovah.

But the Bible says in Deut 6:4 Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is ONE Jehovah.

Notice in Deut 6:4 it used “IS” and only ONE person is involved. If there are three Jehovah then it should have used ARE for THREE persons.

There is ONLY ONE JEHOVAH, who is God Almighty.

We have to note that Jesus calls his Father, My God. www.dictionary.com defines God also as “one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe”
, ‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’” - John 20:17
So basically, Jesus said “My God” means “My Supreme Being and CREATOR”


The Bible only uses the term CREATOR and NEVER CREATORS to describe God. See Isa 40:28. For Trinitarians , since there are THREE PERSONS, then there are THREE CREATORS.

Acts 2:36 states that God has MADE Jesus both Lord and Christ. The Lordship of Jesus has a beginning because it was MADE by God.

Isa 9:6 states
6 For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.


According to Trinitarians, Jesus is the Almighty God because Isa 9:6 states that Jesus is the Mighty God. You’ll be fooled by the Trinitarians if you are not careful in what you read.

Please notice that in Isa 9:6 it is in FUTURE tense “WILL come”. So obviously, at the time Isa 9:6 was written, Jesus doesn’t have the title “Mighty God”. Isa 9:6 is a future prophecy, it hasn’t happened yet at that time it was written. So the title the Mighty God for Jesus has a beginning.

If Jesus has those titles with no beginning, then Trinitarians have a big problem.
Jesus is called the Eternal Father in Isa 9:6. Now that is a big conflict with the Trinitarian doctrine, because according that doctrine, the Son IS NOT the Father.


Was Jesus also created?
Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten(Gennao) thee. Acts 13:33

The word begotten in Greek is gennao. It means “to be born” –Strong’s dictionary defines this as procreate (properly of the father, but by extension of the mother); figuratively to regenerate: - bear, beget, be BORN, BRING FORTH, conceive, be delivered of, gender, MAKE, spring.

At Acts 13:33, it states the Father “has MADE/BRING FORTH” the Son. This verse talks about the relationship of God to his Son whom he MADE/BROUGHT FORTH (Gennoa).

See John 5:26 again.



Heb 1:10 states “You at [the] beginning, O Lord, laid the foundations of the earth itself, and the heavens are [the] works of your hands”


Heb 1:10 was quoted in Psalms 102:25. Does that mean that Jesus and Jehovah are the same God or the same person? No. Even the doctrine of Trinity states that the Son and the Father are NOT the same person. So you can not use these verses to defend the Trinity.

Notice that in both texts, only singular noun is used (Lord not Lords). But there are TWO persons involved. One is the Father, one is the Son.

Basically, Jehovah used his Son, Jesus as a channel to do the works.

John 14:10 states “? 10 Do you not believe that I am in union with the Father and the Father is in union with me? The things I say to YOU men I do not speak of my own originality; but the FATHER WHO REMAINS IN UNION WITH ME IS DOING HIS WORKS”

Since both the Father and Son did their important jobs in the creation, applying Heb 1:10 can also be applied to Jesus.

1 Cor 8:6 tells us the difference
“there is actually to us one God the Father, OUT of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH whom all things are, and we through him”


When 2 persons with two different responsibilities accomplished a certain project, both can say “ I did this project” but it doesn’t mean that both are the same person.