Believers, Why would I worship a god?

Question

That cares more about me worshipping him than me doing good things.
I can live a very moral and productive life helping out my fellow man but according to alot of your beliefs, (christians, muslims, etc) I will still go to hell because I did not believe in your god.
Do you see the absurdity of this logic with your god?

Cindy, I am loved plenty by my friends and family.
I can't force myself to believe in something that doesn't make sense to me.

Answer 1

Christian logic: Live a WONDERFUL life, donate to charity, become a doctor, save millions of lives, donate to the poor, help the needy, love everyone, live the picture perfect life, yet do not believe in god, you go to hell.

Live a horrible life, murder, rape, plunder and pilliage. On your death bed, repent and accept jesus as your lord and savior into your heart, ask for forgiveness: Go to heaven.



Sounds pretty F-ed up to me.

Answer 2

Hypothetically speaking (this means to make an assumption ... can you do that for just a moment?) if taking the John 3:16 or John 10:9 fealty pledge actually sent you to hell and god punished you, would you still believe in god? Do you believe because of the reward or because it advances your spiritual development? Would you still want to advance your spiritual self in absence of heaven?


Let us examine one area Christians think about atheists. Christians seem to think non-believers hope that their good deeds will get them into heaven, should heaven really exist. The Torah (Old Testament) has a word for this: mitzvah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitzvah ). Many atheists such as myself perform mitzvahs not for the sake of getting an admission ticket into heaven, but because performing good deeds and helping those in need is the right thing to do. In other words, these are selfless acts.

Christians sometimes proffer Pascal’s Wager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager ) suggesting to non-believers that they should accept Jesus (John 3:16) as some sort of insurance policy against hell, just in case it turns out god really exists. The fallacy with this line of reasoning is that faith in god for some reward or to avoid punishment is not faith at all. It is a selfish act to receive something in return for a belief. The point of religious belief so that one becomes a better person, not to receive a reward or please a spiritual being.

What type of god would want me to pledge my fealty to him or her simply for the sake of believing or proving my allegiance? I would expect god is beyond pride and the need for some following.

For all those thumbs down votes, I ask you to examine your personal motivation for believing in god.

Why is the concept that one can perform selfless mitzvahs and possess moral values without belief in god so difficult for many Christians to comprehend?

Answer 3

You get 72 Houri, (virgins) in heaven! thats sounds good enough reason to me. dont worship the Christian God hes boring.

Answer 4

I have no idea.You are free to do as you please.Take no notice of some Christians who want to "save you".From what i have seen, they should be working on their own salvation.

Answer 5

There is no need to worship god

Answer 6

Hosea 6 -6

I want you to show love,
not offer sacrifices.
I want you to know me
more than I want burnt offerings.

Answer 7

i see the absurdity in your interpretation of that logic, yes. But you've got to realize, you're interpreting what you want to interpret.

Answer 8

BECAUSE THEYRE TURNING INTO A KID...AGAIN

Answer 9

Follow the proofs with logic and science
http://www.creationofuniverse.com/
http://www.harunyahya.com/Existence_of_God.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/books/faith/gentle_artistry/artistry01.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/A_tr.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/create01.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/c_refutation_atheism.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/articles/70the_fall_of_atheism_sci34.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/articles/70ignorance_sci11.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/articles/70god_created_sci08.php
videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLLcRN-nnEQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xKGrZJXTxI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNPVTTUy7q0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuvux9ase8w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ0oaAD6--U
http://www.harunyahya.com/m_video_creation_universe.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/m_video_atheism.php

http://www.harunyahya.com/c_design_nature.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/c_design_universe.php

http://www.harunyahya.tv/index.php?l=4

so called theory of evolution
http://www.harunyahya.com/c_refutation_darwinism.php
http://www.darwinistsneverrealize.com/
http://www.askdarwinists.com/
http://www.fossil-museum.com/
http://www.evolutiondeceit.com/
http://www.evolutiondocumentary.com/
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/
http://www.darwinismthegreatestlieinhistory.com/
http://www.whydarwinwaswrong.com/
http://www.detailsofdarwinistforgeries.com/
http://www.bewareofdarwinistfalsehoods.com/
http://www.famousdarwinistdeceptions.com/
Vidoes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5sfHz3xyNc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-_BDLNfcOc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slJ1ZINQBfY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv6uejxOugI

and many more...

Answer 10

I feel grateful to him(Allah) what ever I do to him it does not really enough he my Lord and i love him more than my mom,dad,child ....read his promise to mankind

In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful


Allah has promised, to those among you who believe and work righteous deeds, that He will, of a surety, grant them in the land, inheritance (of power), as He granted it to those before them; that He will establish in authority their religion - the one which He has chosen for them; and that He will change (their state), after the fear in which they (lived), to one of security and peace: ’They will worship Me (alone) and not associate aught with Me. ’If any do reject Faith after this, they are rebellious and wicked.
other verse

But it is for those who fear their Lord. That lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight): (such is) the Promise of God: never doth God fail in (His) promise.

other vests

O mankind! do your duty to your Lord, and fear (the coming of) a Day when no father can avail aught for his son, nor a son avail aught for his father. Verily, the promise of Allah is true: let not then this present life deceive you, nor let the chief Deceiver deceive you about Allah.
Source(s)
Quran
CONCEPT OF GOD IN CHRISTIANITY
by Dr. Zakir Naik



I
Position of Jesus (pbuh) in Islam:

(i)
Islam is the only non-Christian faith, which makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus (pbuh). No Muslim is a Muslim if he does not believe in Jesus (pbuh).

(ii)
We believe that he was one of the mightiest Messengers of Allah (swt).

(iii)
We believe that he was born miraculously, without any male intervention, which many modern day Christians do not believe.

(iv)
We believe he was the Messiah translated Christ (pbuh).


(v)
We believe that he gave life to the dead with God’s permission.

(iv)
We believe that he healed those born blind, and the lepers with God’s permission.

II
CONCEPT OF GOD IN CHRISTIANITY:

1.
Jesus Christ (pbuh) never claimed Divinity

One may ask, if both Muslims and Christians love and respect Jesus (pbuh), where exactly is the parting of ways? The major difference between Islam and Christianity is the Christians’ insistence on the supposed divinity of Christ (pbuh). A study of the Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says, "worship me". In fact the Bible contains statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in which he preached quite the contrary. The following statements in the Bible are attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh):

(i) "My Father is greater than I."
[The Bible, John 14:28]

(ii) "My Father is greater than all."
[The Bible, John 10:29]

(iii) "…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…."
[The Bible, Mathew 12:28]

(iv) "…I with the finger of God cast out devils…."
[The Bible, Luke 11:20]

(v) "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."
[The Bible, John 5:30]


2.
The Mission of Jesus Christ (pbuh) – to Fulfill the Law

Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity for himself. He clearly announced the nature of his mission. Jesus (pbuh) was sent by God to confirm the previous Judaic law. This is clearly evident in the following statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in the Gospel of Mathew:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

"For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."
[The Bible, Mathew 5:17-20]


3.
God Sent Jesus' (pbuh)

The Bible mentions the prophetic nature of Jesus (pbuh) mission in the following verses:

(i)
"… and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me."
[The Bible, John 14:24]


(ii)
"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou has sent."
[The Bible, John 17:3]


4.
Jesus Refuted even the Remotest Suggestion of his Divinity

Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:

"And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’

And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ "
[The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]

Jesus (pbuh) did not say that to have the eternal life of paradise, man should believe in him as Almighty God or worship him as God, or believe that Jesus (pbuh) would die for his sins. On the contrary he said that the path to salvation was through keeping the commandments. It is indeed striking to note the difference between the words of Jesus Christ (pbuh) and the Christian dogma of salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus (pbuh).


5.
Jesus (pbuh) of Nazareth – a Man Approved of God

The following statement from the Bible supports the Islamic belief that Jesus (pbuh) was a prophet of God.

"Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know."
[The Bible, Acts 2:22]


6.
The First Commandment is that God is One

The Bible does not support the Christian belief in trinity at all. One of the scribes once asked Jesus (pbuh) as to which was the first commandment of all, to which Jesus (pbuh) merely repeated what Moses (pbuh) had said earlier:

"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonai Ikhad."

This is a Hebrew quotation, which means:

"Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord."
[The Bible, Mark 12:29]

It is striking that the basic teachings of the Church such as Trinity and vicarious atonement find no mention in the Bible. In fact, various verses of the Bible point to Jesus’ (pbuh) actual mission, which was to fulfill the law revealed to Prophet Moses (pbuh). Indeed Jesus (pbuh) rejected any suggestions that attributed divinity to him, and explained his miracles as the power of the One True God.

Jesus (pbuh) thus reiterated the message of monotheism that was given by all earlier prophets of Almighty God.


NOTE: All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version.

III
CONCEPT OF GOD IN OLD TESTAMENT:

1.
God is One

The following verse from the book of Deuteronomy contains an exhortation from Moses (pbuh):

"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adna Ikhad".
It is a Hebrew quotation which means:
"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord"
[The Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4]


2.
Unity of God in the Book of Isaiah

The following verses are from the Book of Isaiah:

(i)
"I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour."
[The Bible, Isaiah 43:11]


(ii)
"I am Lord, and there is none else, there is no God besides me."
[The Bible, Isaiah 45:5]


(iii)
"I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me."
[The Bible, Isaiah 46:9]


3.
Old Testament condemns idol worship


(i)
Old Testament condemns idol worship in the following verses:

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"

"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God."
[The Bible, Exodus 20:3-5]


(ii)
A similar message is repeated in the book of Deuteronomy:

"Thou shalt have none other gods before me."

"Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that in the earth beneath, or that is in the water beneath the earth."

"Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them; for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God."
[The Bible, Deuteronomy 5:7-9]