Is it wrong to baptize my fiance in his sleep?

Question

My fiance is Jewish, and despite our difference in religion (I'm Christian) we are deeply in love and plan to get married. Although we have agreed not to push each other's religion on each other, I am tempted to baptize him while he sleeps. Is this wrong? Would it even be recognized by God? I have already asked him if he would consider it willingly, but he refuses.

Answer 1

Funny.. and so many people took this seriously
LOL
Poor poor deluded people

Answer 2

Some believe that one can be baptized as an infant, some believe it must be a conscious choice after a person reaches the age of awareness, and some believe you can baptize someone after their death, a sort of retroactive baptism.

Regardless of where you and God come down on baptism, we have evidence that thou shalt not lie. Wouldn't tricking someone into baptism be a pretty serious lie?

I'd advise you to make peace with the issue before yo go ahead with the wedding. Starting off with a deception between you is not a good plan.

Answer 3

As other posters indicate, involuntary baptism is problematic on at least one level, maybe two.

Firstly, there's the non-religious aspect, simple respect in the relationship. You should respect your fiance's decision enough to support it and stand by it. Truth be told, I agree with some other posters that the difficulty you seem to be having with his decision does not bode well for your relationship.

Secondly, there's the religious aspect. I don't know precisely what denomination you follow, but if you're a Baptist you should know that involuntary baptism is specifically prohibited because in Baptist doctrine baptism is reserved only for those who have professed faith and are committed to it. If you're a Catholic or some other denomination which goes for infant or involuntary baptism it may be doctrinally acceptable, but normally to my understanding those situations are primarily for cases where someone is incapacitated or in some other extraordinary and dire situation.

I respectfully suggest that if you can't shake the notion of baptising your fiance you might rethink how committed you are to this relationship.

Answer 4

NO, not recognized by God not just because it is you doing it in secret without your fiance knowing and would not be a personal decision he decided to make, but because also water baptism is and never really was recognized as a necessary act in order to see the kingdom of God. It is a "physical" representation of what was coming which was better than water and it ushered in Jesus and his ministry and the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Baptism is with the Holy Spirit not water.

Answer 5

It would be wrong and incredibly disrespectful! If you are seriously thinking about this then you need to call off your engagement.

You have obviously not been truthful with him about not wanting to push your religions on each other and you obviously think that your religion is superior to his. Have you even thought about what marriage entails - and what the heck are you going to do about your children if you have any? You don't respect him and you have lied to him - shame on you.

Let this man go find someone who respects him and his religion and go off and find yourself some nice little christian boy to get married to - then you won't have to worry about baptizing anyone in their sleep - yeesh

Answer 6

Simple.
Baptizing him in his sleep is like slipping a ring on his finger while he is drunk and saying you are now legally married.

Try to get a book by josh mcdowell MORE THAN A CARPENTER.

Study your own faith and you'll understand things alot easier.

Frankly I suggest you get into sincere small groups and study the basics of Christianity.

1, Basis that Christ ressurected.. mainly find that in the book i mentioned.
2, his teachings, the response to his gift, his sacrifice. for taking the death penalty that we rightly deserve.

there are other things that I can suggest but one step at a time, you need to study Christianity more... I am not talking about joining religion or a group but rather seeking it for yourself....

once you understand that, you will see that you are not even supposed to marry a non believer.
this is a hard teaching but really if you think of FOLLOWER.
you have to follow.
You can't follow if you dont even know who or what you are following.

You need to build up yourself before you try to even seek marriage.

too many people are trying to find the right person and never even spend time to become the right person.


Anyway it is really a sacrifice but truth be that you are risking your future if you dont think about it first.
firstly, God is FIRST.
Think about that, God first, not your fiance. If you have to postpone marriage until he is converted then so be it.
and if you have to avoid marriage then so be it.
It would only destroy one of you, I would think you will most likeley be the victim since you seem not to even understand the basics of baptism. He will easily plow you over and crush your faith.

Secondly, loving others. this is not restricted to romantic relations.

What is your lifes goal anyways? Ministry or marriage?

Think about that.... What is your life going to be about?
Get married have kids, save money, retire, die in a nursing home?

Think about that.

Or is that not even God's plan for you?
Does God want you in ministry?
Does God even want you to get married?
Obviously God wants you to be saved, I'll take your word for it that you are a true believer.
In that case.

Have you no wish for others to be saved?
If not, then you are not saved yourself, BE SURE OF THAT.- Charles Spurgeon (if I remember right)

So what should be your focus in life?
The eternal salvation of others..

This can be done through many ways. Preaching, serving and living by example.

But anyway if your life is not consumed by God, you have to ask yourself if God is even in your life at all.
If God is just a little addition to your schedule or is he your masterplan...
Is he just a little lucky necklace? Or is he the one who saved you from hell and came back from the dead?

Is he the one who said
39(A) Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.


Matthew 10:39 (English Standard Version)
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Theres many things you need to consider, you can msg me if you want to continue this.

Grace and Peace in Christ Yeshua.

Answer 7

It is wrong to baptize him in his sleep. Baptism is a conscious personal decision. Just like accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
If you do it, all you're going to do is get the bed wet, make him mad, and make a mockery of baptism.
The main question is: Why do you want him to be baptized?

Answer 8

Yes, it's wrong. In fact, I find the idea to be incredibly despicable. If you loved him, you wouldn't have to push your religious beliefs on him, let alone trying to push them on him in secret like this.

WHAT are you hoping to accomplish by doing this? The act is insulting to him and his faith. It disgusts me that you can simultaneously say you love this man. It's also embarrassing to you and that a ceremony like baptism has any meaning for the unwilling (let alone the unaware because they're sleeping!). How would you like it if he kept telling you that you had to convert to Judaism, and one night tried to put a yarmulke on your head and recite Jewish prayers when you were asleep?

If you honestly think that he's in some kind of metaphysical danger simply because his religion is different, I can tell you right now that this relationship is NOT going to last.

Answer 9

God's Word tells us to not be unequally yoked, dear one. And baptizing someone in their sleep isn't baptizing them. It's getting them wet and chances are, they'll wake up and not be happy about it. Real baptism requires knowledge of why one is being baptized. But then, I think you already know that *wink*

God bless!

Answer 10

Well I have to admit that I have showered my Satanic ex boyfriend in holy water more than once, but that is a different story. Seriously though. If I was your fiance and you did that to me, I would dump your...

Answer 11

Yes, it is very wrong.

It shows you don't respect his religion.

No, it would not be recognized by God, who gives everybody a choice (not tricked) to be baptized.