I know of people who lied about felonies, warrants, and other things like that. They were caught pretty quickly, most by the time they cleared basic and AIT. In-processing physicals are extremely hard to fake, as they have you completely naked in a very well lit room standing in front of multiple doctors, looking at you as if you are some sort of animal at a show, being judged. In line with that comparison, it's also inferred that the "judges" don't expect to hear anything relavent from the animals in front of them.
If you did as you say perhaps your service erred in your enlistment all together, and should have placed you in a less conventional establishment to make better use of your skills in deception. Probably not though, because although you may have been smart enough to avoid detection, you are not endowed with the foresight to see this issue being a problem.
I take it you KNEW at the time you enlisted that there were pins in your lower leg and ankle? Was this something you had as a very young child? Did your father or mother hear you complain about your leg and say "Oh, that's right you broke your leg when you were a baby and we had to put pins in your leg!". Were you raised by a family member who possibly didn't know about your medical history? If no then, you lied yourself into a pretty nice conundrum.
You know the saying, "the truth will set you free"? In most cases the truth WILL set you free of one circumstance and introduce you to a whole other set.
1. Gain knowledge of the opponents: Learn what happens when you admit to fraudulent enlistment. Go to JAG (No confidentiality expected), talk to a chaplain, ask a external military law professional (while on leave or through a relative). Right now your problem seems medical, but this REALLY is a legal issue, and you don't want to make a confession without consulting with a legal specialist.
2. I think most soldiers have to keep a regular work out schedule and do some pretty intensive walking and running under load. Are you keeping up? Are you physically fit in every other way, including meeting hight/weight standards?
3. Are you a good servicemember? Do you do your job well? Are you competant in your assigned tasks? Have you mastered multiple roles or tasks? Have you been to combat? Any awards or medals? Will your fellow service members speak well of you? Will your supervisor's and commanders speak well of you? Is your ASVAB score high enough to reclass? There are some jobs which require very low physical work, but are incredibly mentally intensive. Could that be you? You've got to play to your strengths.
Your main value to your Unit and the Army is you being able to fill the role you were sent to fill. Are you a combat arms soldier? Did you have to go to school for a long time to become MOS qualified? Is there a shortage of your MOS in the field now? I've heard of stranger things happening in the Army. Just depends on the individual, and what you have the offer.
If you are a bad soldier, you can expect them to hit you with everything in the book. As this will be a way of for them to deal with you while not having to loose the opportunity to get another soldier to replace you. You need to do all of this before your unit gets deployed, and you have no control over when that will be, so I would make haste.
2007-12-05 07:13:14
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answered by HotDockett 4
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They will discover it sooner or later. But the reality is you lied to enlist. You could be discharged on several chapters, not even mentioning fraudulent enlistment. But there are plenty of people in the Army with pins in various parts of the body who do just fine. It may move you to a non-deployable status. It may limit what MOS you can have, and they can make you change if you are in something that can't take the stress.
But it's better to get it looked at and make sure the pins are in place than to possibly really hurt yourself seriously, making getting kicked out of the Army the least of your concerns.
2007-12-05 13:41:55
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answered by Meghan 7
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Yeah, the first answerer is right, you're not in a good spot. Ultimately I'd fess up and take what's coming to you.
First, you COULD try to hide it but you're seriously risking some pretty hefty permanent injuries by doing that... oh, and getting a permanent injury WOULD get you an examination and a possible courts martial for fraudulant enlistment. In other words, you're sitting (er, walking and running) on a time bomb.
Reporting it isn't going to go so pretty. At best you'll probably get an MEB without benefits (since you weren't supposed to enlist like that in the first place). At worst you COULD still be brought up in courts martial for fraudulant enlistment, although things tend to go easier on people who take responsibility. Middle ground, in that case, would be an administrative discharge of some sort
2007-12-05 13:20:24
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answered by promethius9594 6
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most everyone is right on here so far. but the good news is your not going to jail. most likely what will happen is the army will discharge you with an RE4 and if you were given a bonus then you would have to either repay or agree not to get the remainder of that money. either way the ARMY will discharge you. its called fraudulent enlistment, i hope your recruiter didnt know either cause their gonna go after him too.
2007-12-05 13:55:45
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answered by Anonymous
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darn skippy you will get into trouble.. YOU LIED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
yes, you committed Fraudulent Enlistment and most likely will be kicked out and you will lose every single bennie you had coming to you. and yet you could have done the right thing and possibly gotten a waiver. Go figure.
You can continue as you are, and do permanent damage to yourself..or worse, get somebody hurt or killed because you failed in a crunch, or you can come clean.
2007-12-05 13:26:59
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answered by Mrsjvb 7
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doctors didn't do a very good job with you physical did they? my question is why don't they just look at your medical records they have them? i don't think your being honest with us here. i had some broken bones from when i was younger that they asked me about before i ever had a chance to tell them about them. they even had to call corps headquarters to talk to the head doctor for me to get a waiver for my broken collar bone, so i doubt they would over look they pins in your leg. not to mention my youngest step son broke his leg playing football and has pins in his lower leg the scar gives away that there is something there.
2007-12-05 13:45:18
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answered by darrell m 5
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You need to come clean. The Army is going to find out sooner or later. Better they do it now, before you do any permanent damage to your leg.
2007-12-05 13:57:56
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answered by Kenny J 2
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How did you explain the scars?
At some point the truth will come out. It always does. You have put yourself in a tough spot. Sooner is better than later in telling the truth.
2007-12-05 13:38:55
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answered by Anonymous
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I'm thinking you should have told the truth and you wouldn't be in this situation. Fraudulent enlistment is a serious matter.
2007-12-05 13:21:27
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answered by Anonymous
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2 choices
1. Admit you have a false enlistment and take whatever happens
2. Get a few bottles of aleve and suffer til your time is up.
2007-12-05 13:15:07
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answered by Anonymous
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