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wrong because it is instinctively within us or because God has told us? Are the two the same - or are they different? Thoughts?

2007-12-05 00:47:01 · 15 answers · asked by Gatekeeper 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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God has nothing to do with it, check out the Old Testament for examples of killing and torturing by him (Job is a good place to start, God wants to win a bet with Satan).

Morals are ingrained to us from millions of years of evolution.

2007-12-05 01:01:41 · answer #1 · answered by Doodle 6 · 1 0

Athiest Machine is part the way there. Our genes allow for killing other humans, either indirectly or directly. Competition for resources is what drives the need to kill or show aggression. remember that killing is simply a progression of aggression.

In the animal kingdom certain species kill their own young or the young of others. Croc will often take baby crocs and eat them. Chimps have been known to kill chimps from rival groups and ea them.

We as part of the animal kingdom still contain these selfish genes for competition. We have in parallel evolved to live in societies and groups much larger than in the animal kingdom This is probably a more unnatural state of affairs and thus we still have murder. We do however have laws against it to try and prevent it. If humans lived in smaller groups murder would probably be less frequent as competition for resources within the group would not be a high.

2007-12-05 01:03:29 · answer #2 · answered by penster_x 4 · 2 0

To not kill is not instinctively within us. From the beginning, in fact the first man born on earth, murder has been the natural inclination within man. It is only God's laws that control people and give moral values. Animals think nothing of killing.

2007-12-05 00:52:59 · answer #3 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 1 1

I don't think any human being with feelings would ever feel "good" about killing another person [unless they are psychologically deranged, such as serial killers, etc.].

Therefore killing another person is not wrong because "God said so", but rather because it is not a moral thing to do. Killing goes against our "moral code". And yes, I do believe that morals [doing what is right vs. what is wrong] are in a way "instinctive".

However, morals do not necessarily have to do with with one's religions beliefs [or a lack thereof]. Think of how in SOME religions killing is thought of as a good thing [such as is true with suicide bombers]. Morals CAN co-exist with religion, but they are two distinctly separate things.
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2007-12-05 00:51:33 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

asim_aj2... you are forgot the next verse

33. The punishment for those who wage war against God and His Prophet, and perpetrate disorders in the land, is to kill or hang them, or have a hand on one side and a foot on the other cut off, or banish them from the land. Such is their disgrace in the world, and in the Hereafter their doom shall be dreadful.

so Allah is OK with killing as long as they are not Muslim.


also check out
The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah's cause ... will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) (Hadith Sahih Bukhari, Vol 1 Book 2 Number 35)

and please do not forget
I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12)


If there is another way to interpret these please let me know.


EDIT: I just wanted to add this one I just remembered.
Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

2007-12-05 00:59:45 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

It is Satan who has come to kill, steal, & to destroy. It is because of SIN that causes us to hate one another. When we ask Jesus to forgive us of our SIN He is faithful & just to forgive us our SIN & to cleanse us from all unrighteousness & renew our mind as to be like Christ Jesus so we will not have the urge to kill another fellow human that God has made, no matter what the circumstances. Does this answer your ? This also brings up another thought about taking the life of a murderer or rapist but if you look in the Bible of how they use to judge the others they had witnesses then followed quickly by stoning. We have been founded on this basic Truth in our heritage of this Country(USA) & now every 1 is seeing the result of not getting the killer off the street & onto death row & let God judge them no wonder our society is going down the drain.

2007-12-05 01:02:50 · answer #6 · answered by Mark K 2 · 1 1

Instinct, demonstratably so. fMRI studies have even located the parts of the brain involved in basic ethical response and they're located real close to the brainstem, indicating they evolved early in complex life, slightly before the evolution of avians, and reached their fullest extent in social mammals.

Different, because instincts exist and deities do not.

2007-12-05 00:53:02 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Even animals don't kill in their own community.

It's instincts. Nothing special about that.

If god really wanted us not to kill each other, why don't you check out Old Testament where god orders death to millions of little children of Egypt?

2007-12-05 00:49:46 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

It is called the conscience and animals don't have one for those who say they do. God created us that way and gave us the written Law because of our sinful nature after the fall.

2007-12-05 00:57:20 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Are our morals internal or external?

If our morals were internal, then we would expect to see a world where everyone's morals were different.

If our morals are external (God or Forms or Otherwise), then we would expect to see a world where everyone's morals are the same.

Since we see neither of these worlds around us, I conclude that morals are both internally and externally influenced.

2007-12-05 00:54:35 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

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