Does anyone else feel sorry for today's youth and the choice of car's available to them now day's?

Question

I'm 39 and not trying to be rude but don't you feel the young generation was conned into thinking Honda's and Mitsubishi's etc. are cool? Those EVO's are the ugliest throw away car's on the road too. And non of them are truly fast or sound good at all.
Why aren't they getting a hint when the muscle car win's at the end of every 'Fast And Furious' movie?
I mean, the day the very first 'Vette, Mustang, Camaro, Chevelle, GTO etc. etc. rolled of the assembly line they were cool car's and instant classics.
Honda Civic's were never cool for like 25 year's and now I'm supposed to be inspired by one??? I would still feel like the biggest dork owning one. I don't get it. All I can figure is this generation wasn't around back then to realize how dorky these 'econoboxes' really are.

I agree with the gas mileage thing. Honda's etc. always got good mileage. There still making Mustang's and I see nothing wrong with it's mileage figures to drive everyday.

Let me re-phrase the question slightly. I know a guy with a '96 Prelude that has $25,000 in it. Mostly in motor and he only run's like high thirteen's. And it's hidious. $25K is a brand new Mustang GT, '69 Camaro, etc.!!!! And your already past that or atleast deep into it!(13's)
Even as a toy, show car, race car,
I guess I need to ask why they CHOOSE Honda's, ugly EVO's etc.

I appreciate hondab16tuner's comment's. The average price of a '99 Civic is $8,512.00 which leaves $16,488 to play with since were talking about $25,000.00 used/new cars not new $75,000 Corvettes. "When were the COOL factory 12 second Civic's avalible from the factory for even $1.00?" Never. My point in general.
Gas mileage and the 'bigger the better' thing? The 3.8 V6 Buick Grand National, 20th anniversary T/A, beat that WAY back in the 80's with a Turbo and there value never dropped a dime. I still can't afford one outright.
$56.00 dollars a month for full coverage seem's right for an 8 year old $8500 Civic. No insurance company will cover you for your full investment of $25,000. I pay $262 a YEAR for a $22,000 muscle car. Yes, per year.
Ofcourse your entire engine weighs less than the bumper of a '75 Camaro. Duh. Who cares.
I will only be impressed when I see any Honda 4-cylinder motor make a '65 Impala run a 10.97 @123 with two feet of the ground. It'll never happen.

Back to the $16,488. I bought an '87 Monte Carlo SS for $8200. Body and paint are perfect so for $16,000 more it could go 10's easily and still have enough cash left over to buy fuel for 2 year's.
But don't you think the new car's are less inspiring? Like the example of the NEW GTO that has gone away? Yes it's boring looking but it's a freakin' fast car like the tuner's want to be. Sounds so much better, has a cool history and will be very sought after.

Let me introduce the NISSAN SKYLINE, The '70 Chevy LS6 Chevelle SS of Japan. Or atleast the way Tuners speak of it. Only problem is there only sold in Japan but everyone in the U.S. talks about it. Not that I think anybody can ever afford a '70 Chevelle SS but the kid's here just gab about the SKYLINE but I've never seen one because they don't exist here and tame!!! So who cares.

Civic Body Kit's? Did you ever meet a man that bought a '72 Firebird or a 308 Ferrari and then changed the entire body style? ENOUGH SAID!

Answer 1

I hear what your saying.
But styles and taste change,music,fashion sort off etc.
and atm the popular style is the Japanese market.
I never touched Japanese cars until my Farther in law gave us a
sporty sedan,then it began,if the family car feels this great what must the coupes be like.
So here iam after owning a good few Japanese sporty cars.

Muscle cars are great but,have a limited market as not everywhere in the world has them or a mass of them,so if a style was ever going to take off it was going to be one which is shared worldwide.And with the petrol cost in many countries being so high and road tax due to engine cc,whom could run one.
Japanese cars are popular for there cost,easy to get parts although expensive.Bodykits are mass produced against a limited American cars so sold cheaply as well as many other styling and in an age where we like to stand out this is ideal. ,and engines,you see Japanese car makers where not aloud to make cars about 300bhp for many years,so with this rule and not wanting to upset there owners,many cars where released above the 300bhp limit but not on the books.And the true engine power was hidden to be be released by tuners.
A great example of these hence it being popular is the Skyline range using the RB engine these carry great hidden BHP and can reach heading on for 500bhp on stock internals .This is also present in many Japanese cars.
So the appeal is cheaper styling,a true fashion statement atm,and engines which can reach high bhp with out the big cc engine and extra petrol/tax cost .
Sorry its not your taste, but anything modern not matter what it is isnt made to last for gens,so we have to enjoy them for what they are.

Hey man i was on your side but it seems you are a little angry about this topic maybe a little to much for your age,as around your gen also.I spoke about the Skyline as an example of loads and loads of Japanese cars which can be tuned to high bhp.And the Skyline is sold all over the world as an import if we want to cross that road,there may not be many yet in the US but i know a good few owners whom are US owners.
As for changing the Bodykits etc is the way of the modern world,whereas i said parts are made for this market on a wider scale,maybe if the same US cars where made today they would have kits to change its looks.
Sorry man but its time for your slippers and pipe by the sound of it.Maybe the answer is we should feel sorry for you,if this is upsetting you this much.Hope you work it out mate.

Answer 2

The muscle car is a limited market, and always has been. I don't know about you, but I like getting anywhere from 40 to 50 mpg on the highway, depending on terrain and wind conditions. At today's gas prices, a muscle car is more of an expensive toy than practical transportation. That being said, the current Mustang would blow the doors off any older muscle car on winding and/or hilly terrain. The handling of the old Mustangs etc is actually pretty crude compared to today's edition, and when you add the low-profile 65, 60, and 50 series that are common, radial tires in place of the older 80 series tires, and 78 series bias ply that replaced them, there is just no comparison.

I have to ask why acceleleration is so important? Doesn't do anything on the street except impress juveniles, slide you into the ditch in winter, and get you tickets. And when you have children the "cool" sounding car will be the quiet one, and the impressive one will be the one that carries your family safely within your budget, and you won't be blowing the doors off anybody with your kids in the car with you.

Answer 3

Well I have a fully built 99 civic thats sleeved, boosted, FULL INTERIOR, DAILY DRIVEN that has 367 HP on 15 PSI AT THE WHEELS for daily driving, and 550+ HP at the wheels on 25 PSI for the track. I have right at $25,000 TOTAL including the cost of the car in it. My best was 10.97 @123 MPH in the 1/4 mile. OH and I get 26 MPG too. By the way the GTO is no longer made due to poor sales and looking like a freakin grand am, the Corvette Z06 is $75,000 off the lot and CAN'T beat me, the new Camaros will be slower than me and are going to be upwards of $55,000 for the V8 model, the Mustang GT is slow and turns like a horse and buggy, the SVT Cobra Mustang is $66,600 off the lot. I'm sorry that a car that gets 8 MPG can't beat a "econobox" car. The "american" musclecar is a thing of the past, Gas prices are just too high. Who really has the money to pay $50,000+ for a car that gets 8-10 MPG? I'm sorry that you are stuck in believing that the bigger the motor the more HP it has. My motor with the turbo on it only weighs 350 lbs. Most musclecar engines have BLOCKS that weigh more than my entire motor. I have beaten Porsce 911 turbos, Corvette Z06's, Dodge Vipers, all cars that cost more than TRIPLE of what I have TOTAL in my car. Plus I only pay $56/month for insurance. Try telling an insurance company that you want to pay that for a Dodge Viper.

Answer 4

First let me say,I work in an auto repair shop where almost everyone drives a hot rod(350 jeep wrangler,S10 with a vette motor and narrowed rear end,347 mustang,z28,vette and a magazine quality turbo vw GLI) and I say MORE POWER TO THEM! we get quite a few tuner cars in our shop and yes most are 15 sec. econoboxes with loud fartcan mufflers but some are 600-700 hp machines that even I won't choose off with -lol. Now be honest,when you were in high school were there any Legit "12sec cars" ,few if any I would bet.this is why baskin robbins and ho-jo have soooo many good flavors,right.

Answer 5

honestly, I prefer 'Stangs, 'Vettes and Camaros and i'm only 20 (going on 21).

Unfortunately, with the gas prices any more the "econoboxes" are becoming more and more enticing as they get a higher MPG ratio, thus saving money. The status symbol has become how "green" you are, or how much effort you put into "saving the world."

Now, if they made a 'Stang that got amazing gas mileage I'd be all over it like a hobo on a ham sandwich. Here's to waiting for that day.

Answer 6

When I compare what I can buy now with what you could buy when you were getting your first car I feel sorry for what you had to put up with.

Cars are a lot better now then they have been at any time in the past.

Answer 7

Not everyone in the world can afford a Corvette or GTO.