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I'm going to agree with Coopello but add that Hank Steinbrenner did something in that deal that every other owner or GM should have taken his lead on --- and that was tell the Twins --- especially their skinflint owner to smell what they are shoveling. In case no one noticed this the Twins were playing every "big" team (i.e., Yanks, Red Sox, Angels, Mets) as little mindless pawns and it backfired.

Not only do the Twins lose badly on this idiotic stubbornness of Pohlad's, but so does Santana. If he stays in Minnesota, which might be the case since he's not a free agent 'til the end of this coming season, people are going to look back on the Twins lame attempt to dangle the carrot and drive the price ridiculously high over a pitcher that has been a proven work horse, but that is another year older.

As of now, Boston is supposedly back at the table, but Epstein has not succumbed to what the Twins want. This could present the Mets with a good opportunity to sneak in and grab Santana while the Sox and cheapskate Pohlad and his puppet GM are trying to dangle that carrot again.

Hank Steinbrenner was the man because he had cajones the size of soccer balls and displayed the middle finger to the deal. You have noticed the price started dropping like a bad stock didn't you? Bottom line was that the deal that Minnesota wanted was a turd, and no matter how much you polish it, it's still a turd.

2007-12-04 18:25:30 · answer #1 · answered by no1nyyfan55 4 · 1 1

The twins were asking way too much from the yankees. I'm not really sure why they are so interested in a package that includes Lester (not that impressed) and Coco Crisp but let them take those guys. The Yanks should hold on to Hughes and Kennedy and not trade both of them for Santana. Yes, Santana is a great pitcher but you never know what will happen to him in the future (injury, stats fall off). Also, people are not counting on Hughes, Chamberlin and/or Kennedy to do anything. If these guys are as good as everyone expects, the Yanks will have one hell of a starting pitching staff. Maybe it will take a year or so for these guys to develop but if/when they do, the yanks will be very tough to beat. Also, they have a lot of other talented players in the minors that will come up. I know they have one guy that has been compared to Zumaya. A lot of things to look forward to. If the Yanks don't get Santana, they will be okay. Hell, Detroit may be the team to beat now anyway.

2007-12-05 08:07:12 · answer #2 · answered by zwerp2000 2 · 0 0

People complain when the Yankees spend to much for a player or resign a player for a boat load of money and then they complain when they stick to their guns and don't give up to much for a player and hold onto prospects that will probably be great players in a year or two. Come on give it a rest already.
Santana is great but the Yankees don't need to trade away young talent for him. If the Red Sox due land him they will be that much better but please Kurt Schilling is not that good anymore and probably won't produce good numbers next year, Daisuke Matsuzaka is not worth the money they are paying him and lets just see how good he does his sophmore year in the bigs, Tim Wakefield is getting really old and probably won't win 12 games this year let alone the 17 he did last year. Lets face it even if they get Santana they only will have two really good starters and one mediocre starter and two washed up guys. So even if the two great ones win 40 games combined I figure the other three will be lucky to win 40 games combined. Thats only 80 wins. Maybe their bull pen wins them another 12-15. So they win 92-95 games. That doesn't make them a sure thing to win the division by any means, and that is best case. They could easily have some injuries that knock that total down to 85-88 wins.

2007-12-05 02:14:33 · answer #3 · answered by huntnikk2000 3 · 2 0

When the offer was Hughes, Cabrera and 2 mid level prospects the Yanks were the front runners and put a deadline on the offer. Minnesota asked the Yankees to add Ian Kennedy to the mix, the Yankees refused and said original offer stands, tick tock. Minnesota refused the trade New York was offering, and immediately Boston's offer was reduced as were the offers coming from the White Sox, the Mariners and the Mets. The Yankees not only made the right move for themselves by taking the best offer Minnesota would get off the table, but they also made it very possible for a competitive smaller market team to come in and outbid Boston (who will give up one of the three Minnesota is asking for; Buchholz, Ellsbury and Lester). By sticking to their guns the Yankees made life easier for themselves, and a little bit tougher on Boston.

2007-12-05 00:09:07 · answer #4 · answered by coopello 2 · 3 2

I agree with the general mindset of the Yankees, that being the preservation of their farm system. They've been stuck in the ALDS for so long now because they consistently traded away young talent for over-the-hill hitters and they should put an end to that. However, Santana isn't an over-the-hill hitter. He is the best pitcher in the world and will continue to be so for another decade. Unless they want the BoSox winning the next 10 World Series', they need to get this guy.

2007-12-05 00:43:21 · answer #5 · answered by bpmcwalters 2 · 0 2

I think Brian Cashman is using his head .The Yankees have great pitching prospects in Hughes, Kennedy and Chamberlin and more to come Why give that up for someone that started to wear down after pitching more innings than he's used to at 28 years old I think its great that the Yankees are actually getting back to what won them 4 world titles in 5 years developing their own talent.

2007-12-05 08:41:08 · answer #6 · answered by snakeeyes 2 · 0 0

As an organization with the means to carry a player like Santana, I say you definitely do what it takes to get him. Best pitcher in baseball right now, never gets hurt, has devastating change-up that makes hitters look silly, between 2004-2007, he was 70-32, with a 2.89 ERA, 983 K, 0.990 WHIP, all with the Twins. Imagine the possibilities with the Yanks, Red Sox or even the Dodgers.

2007-12-05 02:27:01 · answer #7 · answered by Aloha Head Removal, LLC 2 · 0 1

I don't believe a word of it. Thats somewhat of a smokescreen to see what Boston will do next....

Minnesota could still pull him of the trade market and try
again on July 31; when some other teams may put up more
talent.

2007-12-05 08:01:37 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I feel good about it, because he's coming to Boston baby.

Johan Santana to the RED SOX for Jon Lester, Coco Crisp, and 4 Minor Leaguers is going to happen.

2007 World Series Champions and RED SOX Pitching Rotation in 2008 will be Santana, Beckett, Schilling Dice-K and Wakefield, you'll see in April, RED SOX NATION RULES BABY.

2007-12-05 02:17:10 · answer #9 · answered by tfoley5000 7 · 1 3

Yeah,,we're damned if we do! And we're damned if we DON"T!! Let the other teams get some decent players for a change! We have what we have,,And what we have, will win us a WS!! Finally!! We're doing things the 90's way!!!

2007-12-05 10:17:24 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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