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... being disruptive. So, today, the whole class had to suffer because of these people. I was not on the list. The people that were not on the list all behaved fine, but everyone else was out of control. So today we stayed in durring lunch and did nothing. Now, I'm not omplaining, but I'm curious if you think this is fair or not. Why or why not?

2007-12-04 11:00:45 · 9 answers · asked by NoName 2 in Education & Reference Teaching

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I feel your pain. No, it is not fair to punish an entire group of people for something a few did. Some teachers do this so that the well-behaved" kids will be angry at the disruptive ones -- indirect peer pressure. Teachers think this tension between the two groups will help to teach the bad group to do better so as not to have peers angry with them. But I don't think this effective at all. However -- this practice goes on in all area of our society. For example -- some bad people blew up some buildings so now the rest of us are inconvienced when getting on a plane. Statistics show that many male teen drivers are high risk, so the entire male teen driving population has to pay very high insurance rates. At my school, a group of people in a gang were wearing hats and shirts displaying discreet gang "colors," so now the entire school is forbidden to wear hats to school. There are a million more examples -- and for some of those there is really just no better alternative. But in your case -- there are effective alternatives. The sub should have taken the names of the bad kids and given them to the teacher, or she could have had them immediatley escorted to the office. Those of you that behaved appropriately should have been able to have a free lunch. I tell my students often that when they feel they are being mistreated or something is unfair, a group of them should get together and write it up and present it to the principal and demand (kindly) that things be changed. If you handle this protest professionally, most administrators will be willing to hear you out. You do have rights at school, contrary to what a lot of teachers want you to believe. Stand up for those rights and try to get some things changed to make your school a better place. Good luck and very good question!

2007-12-04 11:49:14 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

That sucks because I know exactly how you feel. I always behaved in school, but often had to suffer with a bad class. However, from a teacher's point of view it's very difficult to single out a large group without dragging the rest of the students down with them. It's not really fair, but then life isn't either.

2007-12-04 11:11:24 · answer #2 · answered by caitlinerika 3 · 0 0

Not fair at all. If the sub took the time to write down the specific offenders, then the teacher should have applied disciplinary action to those alone. If the sub hadn't specified, it would have been different. However, fairness is, very often, just something that is paid lip service and seldom is a reality.

2007-12-04 11:14:04 · answer #3 · answered by heartintennessee 5 · 2 0

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2016-10-25 11:17:05 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

That's terrible.
The sub should be punished for failing to manage his/her class properly.
I bet the whole class had to stay because the sub was too stupid to be able to get the names of the students who misbehaved. No wonder that sub can't get a real teaching job.

2007-12-04 14:09:57 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The important thing is that everyone learned an important lesson at the same time. It's not right for people to act up when there's a substitute teacher. It's rude and it's wrong.

2007-12-04 11:08:46 · answer #6 · answered by Richard B 7 · 0 1

its not fair at all.. but just gotta live with it.. happens to me lots..1 guy talks in while walking down the hallway and the whole class practises to walk down the hallway durinng Phys. Ed.

2007-12-04 11:10:42 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous 2 · 0 0

I agree that only the students whose names were on the list should have had a consequence.

2007-12-04 12:13:14 · answer #8 · answered by caring_funlovingteacher 4 · 0 0

It's so not fair.....if the good kids are punished with the bad kids, then the bad kids don't learn nuttin!!!!!
<3 sarah:p

2007-12-04 11:31:11 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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