Christians..........?

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The patriarch Abraham exercised faith in Gen12.
In Heb 11:8-9 said that Abraham exercised faith.............

Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:


Q1) DO YOU THINK ABRAHAM WAS SAVED/JUSTIFIED IN GENESIS 12?

Q2) IF NOT, WHEN WAS HE JUSTIFIED??




Balaam's A S S had spoken


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Can our faith be greater than Abraham? If not, how many years after Genesis 12, before Abraham was saved/justified?? Why do we so easily presumed we are justified/saved??

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Exousia Skotos:
I asked for Christians for their examination...........


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Answer 1

I believe that what we read in genesis 12 was a sound proof of Abrahams faith. Genesis 15:6 however, makes the first statement about Abraham being called righteous.

Genesis 15:1-6
1 After this, the word of the LORD came to Abram in a vision:
"Do not be afraid, Abram.
I am your shield,
your very great reward. "

2 But Abram said, "O Sovereign LORD, what can you give me since I remain childless and the one who will inherit my estate is Eliezer of Damascus?" 3 And Abram said, "You have given me no children; so a servant in my household will be my heir."

4 Then the word of the LORD came to him: "This man will not be your heir, but a son coming from your own body will be your heir." 5 He took him outside and said, "Look up at the heavens and count the stars—if indeed you can count them." Then he said to him, "So shall your offspring be."

6 Abram believed the LORD, and he credited it to him as righteousness.

Paul probably had this scripture in mind when he wrote:


13It was not through law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith. 22This is why "it was credited to him as righteousness." - Romans 4:13,22

Apparently it is possible to have a faith like Abraham, James takes Rahab as an example for this

James 2:23-26
23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend. 24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.

25In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

Answer 2

When isn't very important, is it? The fact remains, at some point in Abraham's life he believed and was saved by that faith. Old Testament believers were saved by faith in the Redeemer, just like we are today.

Answer 3

Abraham was justified by his faith in God's promise of the Savior that would come to pay for the sins of the world.

He believed and was saved by faith. When he died he went straight to God, he is with God in heaven.

Answer 4

Abraham believed God and it was accounted unto him for righteousness.

Answer 5

He was justified when he went to sacrifice Isaac

Answer 6

The only thing wise about you is that are aware of your inanity. The logic you seek is not at your reach. Though you preach as if you had answers to give. You are nothing more than hollow.

Answer 7

urm, there were no horses mentioned in Noah's Ark, i think.