One thing evolution is not is kind, approximately 98% of the species to have ever walked the Earth are now extinct. Did god really create billions of lifeforms with the specific intent of making them extinct?
How can this be the actions of a loving god? or has god only loved humans?
2007-12-03 16:08:14 · 13 answers · asked by Gawdless Heathen 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Last Ent Wife-Don't think I am sticking up for creationism, god using evolution is just more absurd to me.
2007-12-03 16:12:55 · update #1
Morgaine I know the question is young, but I am sure you will get worst answer on this one
2007-12-03 16:14:44 · update #2
That was the fundamental question I had to wrestle with before I could accept evolution. I knew what the facts were; but I also knew my personal spiritual experiences which led me to believe in a God of Love. I ended up provisionally accepting both, and the "gaps" in my understanding have gradually grown smaller.
One of the mistakes that I made early on was valuing life as an absolute good, and death as an inherent evil. But clearly there are things worth dying for, so this black/white absolute doesn't hold up.
The second thing I came to realize is that God - and Love - is not inside of time the way that creatures are. The way I see it, every human being that ever walked the earth, every butterfly that spread its wings for a single day, every great beast that shook the ground, every daisy that ever flowered and withered away, even each microscopic creature that splits and fades - they are all eternally present, eternally alive, eternally loved in the infinite mind of God.
In that sense, death is a necessary sacrifice each living organism makes to allow new life to be born.
Is that contrary to Love?
Peace to you.
2007-12-03 18:15:29 · answer #1 · answered by Orpheus Rising 5 · 5⤊ 0⤋
I find it easier to believe in a loving God using Evolution, on the days that I believe in God, than a loving God being the Supreme Terrorist that the Fundies make him out to be.
"And it came to pass," are the best 5 words in the Bible. 'Cuz it'd really suck if some things came to stay. Humankind is the only creature that is aware of our potential extinction. Everything else has its day and moves on. It's not when or whether you die that matters, it's that you had the chance to live. And Man is the only animal that doesn't always take that chance.
Extinction is just part of the cycle of life--though not something to be undertaken lightly. Nature and\or Nature's God knows what role a creature plays in an ecosystem. We don't. We got a good look at that when wolves were reintroduced to Yosemite valley and all kinds of species started flourishing again.
And, it's arrogant in the extreme to assume that Humankind is the pinnacle of creation. God may have created us and placates us with Religion, to provide a support mechanism for dogs, cats and mosquitos--just as I believe, some days, that God created Gays so that someone would support Broadway Musicals and buy Barbara Streisand albums.
In short, don't go around assuming that you know what God is up to. If I die, and there is a God, I intend to sit down with Her over a bottle of good whiskey and ask.
2007-12-04 01:06:28 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
I don't reconcile them exactly. Never having successfully brought a new universe into being from scratch, I am aware that there must be rules involved in doing this that I am unaware of. It is simply too immense a Universe for my mind to comprehend completely. The loving part is merely what I hope and pray for, as any other interpretation involves me being in a long running war with the supreme being. Sort of like an ant attacking an elephant. I'll do it if I have to but there better be a **** good reason for it. So far I don't see such a reason, and am not about to do it without one. So, I go with the explanation that comforts me most, there being no way to determine if any other explanation is actually correct.
I am an agnostic theist.
2007-12-04 01:08:46 · answer #3 · answered by balloon buster 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
God planted, a natural order, and a natural farmer. The farmer choked, God got stoked, and the plow keeps turning, ripping the soil, killing the animals, destroying the land, it goes so fast that nothing has time to evolve. Devastation is now it's name, we mismanage, we Miro-manage, we manage to mangle the natural order. I can't reconcile the two. I do however know the evolution of man can't be real, only to destroy and quib for power, that was not the plan, therefore we don't evolve, We devolve.
2007-12-04 00:38:03 · answer #4 · answered by Lizzy ® 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
God and evolution are mutually exclusive and therefore can not be reconciled to anyone's satisfaction. God is a loving God but he can also bring wrath upon humans when it is appropriate. Evolution has its converts and Christianity has its followers. Best to leave it that way.
2007-12-03 16:24:17 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
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Death came, when Adam sinned.
It is to be expected. Rom 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
Soon this world will be burnt up.........all of it.
That still does not make God unfair nor unjust. Who are you to judge God? The spirits within you are no different from Lucifer. At least, Lucifer wanted to be like God. Now you sit in your cursed throne of judgment and judge God as being unloving etc, etc. The can of putrefying worms is very evident in the labyrinth of thine heart
Would you repent? The obvious answer is NO, NO, NO. Then you rightly and just deserve your judgments
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2007-12-03 16:24:46 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
I don't reconcile the two. Along those lines, have you noticed that new species are not created, they only go extinct?
That leads me to believe that instead of new species being continually generated and weeded out, we started out with a bountiful creation of species which have gradually been dying out due to human mismanagement of our planet - the very job God put us here to do, we have neglected.
Edit: Um... thanks? lol "approximately 98% of the species to have ever walked the Earth are now extinct" - Am I wrong or does this not argue for creation and against evolution? Explain to me how I am wrong?
2007-12-03 16:13:43 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 2⤋
you really need to try harder to explain your thoughts,, i see your point , but you are way off base
what if these life forms were the cast out angles and the devil from heaven, perhaps they had bodies then, have you read some of the descriptions of the angles in heaven now, allot the same , even the dragon with 7 heads that will come in tribulation, study a little more ,, and you may find the answers you seek
2007-12-03 16:17:42 · answer #8 · answered by technician68 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The concept of love is generally applied only to humans, so evolution really isn't involved. There are numerous plausible objections to any theory of the existence of god, but evolution doesn't have anything to do with it. See:
2007-12-03 16:13:17 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
That endlessly benevolent (except when he sends your *** to hell) skyfairy couldn't have used evolution, it's too harsh for that supernice kind of god they believe in.
A different god though, the unconscious omniscient kind, would "use" evolution to eventually work towards a species smart enough to escape the fishbowl of the earth's atmosphere.
2007-12-03 16:25:52 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋